Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder: What is going on?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by BrokerNYC, Sep 5, 2023.


  1. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    He’s had 9 fights in 6 years from Huck to Dubois. What are you on about?

    Let’s go back. Usyk fought 3 times in 10 months during the WBSS. He then fought 4 months later against Bellew. That’s 4 fights in 14 months.

    Usyk then moved up to heavyweight and rightly has time off after those 4 tough fights away from home. He fights a year later against Witherspoon but the original opponent was Carlos Takam and then Tyrone Spong.

    Usyk is then scheduled to fight Chisora in May I think but Covid ruins things. This is delayed until October 31. Usyk is now mandatory for Joshua. Negotiations take a while and the fight eventually happens in September 2021.

    At least fact-check before replying to me.
     
  2. unfriendlyorchid

    unfriendlyorchid Probably moaning about Sky Sports Full Member

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    Respect the view totally, and please don't think I'm suggesting Usyk is some kind of coward. He isn't. He's a wonderful, wonderful boxer who I love watching.

    I see him and his recent career path as a lot more calculating and considered. For me, a "fighting man" is a take on all opponents, regardless of any external factors. Usyk is a true prizefighter: he wants to win the belts, that's his motivation.

    I madly respect that motivation - it just doesn't meet my definition of fighting man. He's a true professional.
     
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  3. unfriendlyorchid

    unfriendlyorchid Probably moaning about Sky Sports Full Member

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    You're right that I got my maths wrong. Apologies. Friday night, long week, no excuses.

    However thanks for agreeing that Usyk has had lots of inactivity in recent years. By correcting me you made my point. Appreciate the assistance.
     
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  4. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fought some great fighters at Cruiserweight, done a number on Joshua twice and Fury won't get in the ring with him.
     
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  5. ALN93

    ALN93 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tbf he was injured in 2019, lockdown was 2020 and then had a long wait for Joshua in 2021 because Matchroom wanted to wait for full crowds to be allowed (no issue with that btw). He then had to wait another year as Joshua’s promoters were doing the rematch and wanted to give Joshua more time with Garcia.
     
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  6. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a shambles this, for months and months coming almost exclusively from the mouths of Matchroom, talking about how much money they are all making with this supposed fight, it’s been vulgar and all they have cared about. I don’t mind Hearn, but my god he talks some crap, ‘little fat Frank has been negotiating the deal blahblahblah’, of course he has mate I wouldn’t put him in charge of a Twix.

    Now it comes out the people they were dealing with Skills whatever they are called (god it’s boring even typing this) are now a new entity which is owned by the people who are putting on Fury. I bet Warren is laughing his geriatric head off, the old fart, as they are now taking said money pot in their ‘event’.

    So in a nutshell the Saudis are only currently focused on Fury and his exhibition which none of us boxing fans care about, they couldn’t give a crap at this point about 2 boxers who have lost countless times over the last few years.

    We will no doubt be hearing from Hearn ‘we are looking at other countries for the fight, it doesn’t have to be Saudi’ for god knows how long, they are an embarrassment. No shame, they should have taken the Fury 40% on a plate offer for this month. If they had, we also wouldn’t have to endure this crappy upcoming Fury exhibition.
     
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  7. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are absolute moron. The type of person who pays for twitter.

    The fact is if they weren’t so scared and knew he would lose to him, Joshuas people would have accepted the Fury fight for September and we would have an actual defence of the WBC title in the UK instead of a some crappy exhibition which Fury is now doing and AJ fighting endless walkovers, another one incoming at the of the year.

    Note - 23rd December, that is a good time to put on a fight lol, 2 days before Christmas when the majority of the public are struggling financially. No doubt you will be telling us tickets all got snapped up in ten seconds, biggest presale ever. Such a dickhead.
     
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  8. ALN93

    ALN93 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What is wrong with you :lol: he’s made a genuine mistake and you’re talking to him like ****.

    Let’s not forget all the times you’re wrong with all the fights you claim are happening and then end up don’t.
     
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  9. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And the reason DAZN couldn't buy BT partly was because of Franks contract.
     
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  10. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn’t know that, that does not read well. He must be laughing at them, they desperately need/needed something to drive UK subscriptions and 25% of premier league games plus CL would do that which that deal would have secured them.
     
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  11. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looks like Frank is dealing with the main man in Saudi.

    Even the Saudis know AJ and Wilder are both finished.

    Fury vs Usyk will happen in Saudi Arabia.
     
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  12. Beale

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    Warren's tongue is a darker shade of Brown than Hearn's tongue these days.

    No values, no principles and both would forward their own nearest and dearest for a public flogging to secure a deal.
     
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  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Fact check :risas3:
     
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  14. ZiggyBowie

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    I think the delay in the second Usyk v AJ fight was more to do with the war in Ukraine tbh.
     
  15. Bob Flaps

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    Probably suited AJ to have the break but it was really down to Usyk's availability as you say.