Anthony Joshua vs deontay wilder who truly wins??

I think Wilder is Joshua's achilles heel, unpredictable, big, fast, powerful. The Whyte and Wlad fights highlighted these vulnerabilities. But unlike Wlad, Wilder will not let AJ off the hook, and unlike Whyte, size will not be an issue.

 

Wilder has enough power to beat anyone, but I think his weaknesses would be exposed by Joshua, who is a superior boxer. Wilder has one punch to end the fight, Joshua has a variety of punches to end the fight and a better chance he'll land.

 

Sure, that could happen, it even sounds plausible when you put it like that. Thing is, Wilder has never done that against solid competition so why would he suddenly spring an early KO against AJ?
I smell bs...

 

With this reasoning, Wilder beats everyone easy because he is 'fast and powerful'. Hasn't been so easy for him though against better competition because for all his athleticism and handspeed, he telegraphs his shots and is a one-handed fighter.

 

I think we'll have a better idea how this fight plays out after Wilder/Fury.

Wilder's defence relies on his size and head and upper body movement, he has no guard to speak of whatsoever. The last time he fought someone of a similar size in Washington he struggled defensive and was troubled by the jab. If Fury, even in losing can again compromise Wilder's defence by simply being as tall and rangy and catch him regularly instead of being made to miss by Wilder's defence and then countered I'll be more confident of a Joshua win.

If Wilder can make Fury miss and counter him, I think he can do the same to Joshua and that will make Wilder a far more dangerous opponent for Joshua as Joshua will be forced to be more cautious, giving Wilder time to land that big punch.

But currently I'm thinking Wilder cannot do this, he'll struggle with the size of Fury and Joshua, they'll be able to land on him due to their similar size they won't have to overreach like Ortiz had too and not leave themselves to be so easily countered. That of course doesn't mean Wilder doesn't have a punchers chance still, I still favour Wilder over Fury because of this, but the difference is when Fury lands, he can't land with the fight ending power Joshua will.

 

Who?

At the time Parker fitted your description and was a World Title belt holder but who is there that you’d consider ready and who would be recognised as a credible challenger?

 

Good to know but why & how will he get the better of Joshua

 

I can't call it to be honest. Joshua would be favourite as he is a better boxer than wilder. Wilder has a crazy style with ridiculous power.

I think you would get different outcomes every time they fought, but if i had to pick i would go with Joshua.

 

I am still backing Wilder against AJ via KO.

I think Wilder has a level of unorthodox approach, athleticism and power to be all wrong from AJ. I think Hearn knows it and that is why he has been messing him around and trying to throw Whyte in front of him to protect his cash cow.

Having said all that AJ is an excellent fighter and the best all round HW out there today. But I think in a first fight against Wilder he gets knocked out. A rematch however could be a different story as AJ could then make adjustments.

 

See round 5 against Ortiz for Wilder's chances. Same with Fury et al.
If Wilder lands clean/flush with his "all in" right hand then he wins, if not, he's getting battered.
I reckon both AJ and a non-ring rusty Fury can both do this most of the time.
As soon as Wilder faces a well prepared HW with decent athleticism, I think it will become obvious that fundamental skills actually matter.
Not to say AJ, Fury, Whyte, Parker etc beat him every day of the week but I don't much fancy his chances should they figure out his right hand timing.

 

Same could be said for AJ

 

Joshua is all around better but he has the right vulnerabilities for Wilder to exploit. Unlike in Joshua's earlier days he keeps his guard up and brings it back after throwing. However he pull his hands back kind of slow and often time his guard is just high enough to protect his chin. Wilder will be able to land right hooks on Joshuas temple and forehead.

However, I see Wilder being too tense and cautious to throw very many punches in the first half of the bout. Joshua will be setting the tempo and WILL be landing on Wilder before Wilder lands on him.

 

My reasoning is that fast, big and powerful is bad news for Joshua in particular.

 

Depends on location. UK Joshua gets tape breaks whenever he wants and a brit stoppage. US Wilder gets an extra 30 seconds between rounds when he needs it.