Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte II - August 12 // O2 Arena (DAZN PPV)

Wallin was also a different ref away from beating Fury. It doesn’t change things, Wilder at nearly 40 has a cv like Swiss cheese. Yet we keep hearing how much of an ATG he is. I don’t know how people can look at it rationally and think he’s a favourite over Joshua.

 

Let's be honest here - Usyk is the main man in the heavyweight division and Fury ducked him for an exhibition.

Shades of Big John Fury when Micky Theo call his bluff.

Joshua fighting Whyte and Helenius are still shyte fights

 

If Wallin had that cut, fight was stopped within 1 round.

 

I tell you why.

1. He opens up on Joshua and it is Big Fraudley Harrison all over again with an early stoppage.
2. Wilder is a warrior who will never quit unlike Joshua.
3. It will be the biggest massacre in a ring since Katie Price got a few lengths from 3 rugby teams.

 

Joshua and Hearn were always straight up in fairness about this fight and the previous one. They’re rebuilding with a as new trainer and confidence boosting fights before stepping up again against supposedly Fury or Wilder.They’ve never lied about this. And he’s not a champ so it doesn’t bother me going down this angle. It’s 1000 times better than sitting on his hole waiting for Arab gold.

 

Doesn't mean it should be stopped. Wallin was also butting and raking the cut illegally and was losing the fight.

 

Possibly but people are forgetting Joshua can come back and brutalise an opponent when needs be. Ie Klitschko. And Wilder isn’t exactly hard to hit. I give Wilder a punchers chance, but being Wilder that’s not a normal punchers chance. Basically I lean at least 70/30 on Joshua winning that fight.

 

When an ex World Champion is scared to fight a decent opponent and take a risk - it is over.

All about extracting PPV loot these days.

 

You now how it works - the ref would have stoppped Wallin without thinking twice.

 

Klitschko was an old man.

The time to get up off the canvas was against Ruiz and he choked.

 

Indeed, I don't agree with it though. If a fighter is able to defend himself and wants to continue I don't believe in stopping a fight. It often robs everyone of a conclusive outcome and the full drama of the contest.

 

Absolutely mate but we know how refs are so biased in favour of the favoured fighter.

That was a bad cut on Fury and many were stopped with less severe cuts.

Fury showed heart to keep going and get a deserved win after 12 rounds.

 

"I don’t know how people can look at it rationally and think he’s a favourite over Joshua."

What did Andy Ruiz's record look like when he dogwalked Joshua? His best win was probably his highly competitive 10 round decision over Liakhovich: a more faded Liakhovich than the one Wilder left convulsing on the canvas inside a round. His performances against Morales, Arreola and Ortiz (again worse versions of said men) were also considerably inferior to Wilder's.

Everyone knows that Wilder has fought a lot of sub-standard opposition but were the likes of Takam, Pulev, Parker and Franklin any more dangerous than Stiverne 1, Duhaupas and Arreola? Pulev's best stoppages were late quitjobs via jab when he was much younger, Takam and Parker have zero stoppages against their 10 or 11 best opponents, Takam has zero KD's against them as well and Franklin is the lightest punching of the lot. How were they going to outpoint an A-side Joshua in London? At least Stiverne, Duhaupas and Arreola tried to stop Wilder, overmatched as they were. They didn't just come to spar.

Wilder actually has the more relevant high quality opposition fought in the Joshua matchup. Fury x3 will serve him far better than Joshua's assortment of short, light punching fighters.

 

He was only 1 sec away from winning in fights 1 and 3 v Fury.

The last fight was one of the best heavyweight fights seen for years and Wilder was totally exhausted but had no quit in him.

A warrior with his heart and the power he has makes him a danger to anyone while he is on his feet.

 

Fury and Wallin knew going in about the A-side politics too, it always has to be considered.

It's a significant reason why Fury couldn't moan too much about the Wilder 1 draw: he was fighting an A-side long-reigning champion in said champion's backyard. If you get dropped twice in different rounds then it's very hard to win in such circumstances. He also could have been stopped in that one but thankfully American referees don't tend to jump in as much as British.