Anthony Joshua vs. Drummer Boy Molina, Official, Dec. 10.

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  1. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    technically molina is not a bad fighter
    he has good legs / is in shape/has power in both hands / has good handspeed / is a big 6.4/ 17 stone plus fighter.

    but he keeps his hands low and as soon as he takes a decent punch he goes down hard.

    whyte v chisora might start before december 10th given there 2 personalities.
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I don't dispute it. I'll go with what you say though. I simply don't know, I don't even care. I hope Wladimir Klitschko f--ks off, personally. I understand a bit about the boxing business, and when you understand the business you understand that things in reality aren't what the promoters and the media portray it as. So your guess is as good as any. Of course, they want a lot of gullible child-like fans who thing they have it all figured, saying X "ducked" Y and all that rubbish, and "he's scared". That's exactly the buzz they want. It's all an alternate reality. It's media, it's hype, it's BALLYHOO. It's not real. Sorry, if I'm the first to tell you this. Santa Claus isn't real either, while we're here.

    Point is, the fight was never on.
     
  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    There are literally better opponents fighting on the same night. The excuse "best he could get" is invalid.
     
  4. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed, completely. If there wasn't all the hype about Klitschko then I would have expected a step up fight like this.

    It's a bit hard to say tbh, but I am not counting out the possibility of Joshua's stock falling slightly.... or really, Molina's stock rising because Joshua couldn't possibly be human so anyone who challenges him is clearly near-God status apparently. Despite having fought a lower level of competition of Ortiz who has imho been more dominant in his fights so far.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Its gonna be a card of upsets.

    Molina KO's AJ, Delboy KO's Whyte, Buglioni SD's Hosea and Concepcion knocks Yafai the **** out.:deal:
     
  6. HamburgBuam

    HamburgBuam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why should this be a upset? El Nica should be the clear favourite.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course he should be, but Wlad winning by KO against AJ should have been the logical assumption as well, but with many UK fans and a few here that wasn't the case.
     
  8. NakiFan

    NakiFan Proud Kiwi Guy Full Member

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    Come on CST80...even me being a one-eyed Parker supporter, and rediculer? of AJ, can see Molina getting puffy eyed and KOéd later in the fight.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I gotta be consistent.:biggrin:
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    One thing that annoys me is double standards.

    We all collectively shat on Wilder when he faced Molina.

    I saw people here mocking Wlad for facing Browne instead of Joshua. I mocked him for that because there were better available opponents.

    The same people who threw out these criticisms of the afore mentioned two are now defending this ****.

    I don't understand why. I know this is a **** fight. Hearn knows this is a **** fight. The people defending know it's a **** fight. everyone knows it's a **** fight.

    Don't defend this nonsense. If Hearn dug deeper or pushed the fight back, or selected Ortiz we wouldn't be putting up with this fight.

    Only one defence exists, that is by those who don't see Joshua as a champion, those who see him as a prospect building his resume. fair does. But don't be calling this a world champion defending against the beat available opponent because it simply isn't true.
     
  11. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz will be the stand out performance of this night
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Why would Wlad make an agreement and sign a contract for a fight he wants no part of?:thinking:
     
  13. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chisora is tough but has no stamina. Whtye should win this by default. I do expect it to go 12 rounds. AJ vs Molina, depends on if Molina has a viable gameplan to survive, if not he'll be dispatched rather quickly. He has been performing above his pedigree so he puts in a good effort here most likely.
     
  14. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Molina beats Chisora who's absolutely in the non threat tier. I won't say garbage like I wanted to, he is who is his, now a gatekeeper soon to be journeyman. Whyte should beat him rather easily.
     
  15. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The more I think about it, the more I believe that both would not have fought unless it was a unification fight. Also no actual threats are going to fight each other on short notice, just not going to happen. They would demand a full camp which is at least 10 weeks.