Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MixedMartialLaw, Jan 5, 2024.


Naganou-Joshua, who wins?

  1. Naganou KO

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    26.0%
  2. Joshua KO

    128 vote(s)
    74.0%
  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "AJ ought to mallet Ngannou so badly that he becomes a dancing bear in a circus troupe."

    People said the same thing about a certain morbidly obese Mexican but I seem to recall Joshua hitting the deck four times and quitting in 7.
     
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  2. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Eddie Hearn is always boasting about Anthony Joshua’s resume,but it is now 4 fights in a row where Aj hasn’t fought a top 10 opponent.Franklin,Helenius,Wallin and now Ngannou.Terrible stuff.
     
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  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ has to be ever-vigilant with Ngannou across from him but if he stays composed and puts together his patented vicious combos he should get the job done in rather straightforward and destructive fashion.
     
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  4. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    "This is actually great!!"
     
  5. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Ruiz has hard, fast and accurate hands that he throws in bunches. Ngannou is a water buffalo. If AJ can't cope with treacle-speed Ngannou then he needs to retire.
     
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  6. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't be surprised if Francis defeats AJ. AJ of old beats Ngannou, this timid AJ isn't putting a dent on Ngannou. He needs to play the point game, maybe his chin is better than Fury's but he's going to have to get past that power early if he wants those scorecards.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone should have told Liakhovich, Kevin, Arreola and Ortiz that Ruiz was a hard puncher, maybe they'd have quit in 7 too.
     
  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    0-2/0-3 against top 10 heavyweights in the last six fights and 3.5 years, coming soon.
     
  9. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Coward move as Joshua always do
     
  10. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Francis is human, so yes he can get KOd but I do feel he will be the best chin AJ has ever faced, so it will not be a cakewalk and if AJ takes this fight with that mentality he can see what just happened to his fellow countryman.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I never say the Champions are the only one that should take the hard fights, just they should fight their mandatories, something that AJ has done when he was Champion.
    AJ is the last person that should be criticized for getting an "easy-picking" fight.
    Also the current Champions, and let's be real > Fury, as he stagnated the whole division is just not doing his job very good.

    As far as Wallin goes, eh sorry to break it down to you, but he was another guy that could have very well took a win over Fury, as that cut was a straight TKO victory.
    Still there is a big difference again when Fury fought Wallin, when he wasn't even in the top 50, and when AJ fought him, as Wallin was number 2 in the IBF, and he was top 10 in every other ranking, including Ring. So based on what exactly was he not a top 10 opponent?

    You say no excuse, and then bring plenty for Fury. You know you are not alone in the ring. What we heard before and after the fight is that Fury had his longest camp, and everything was fine. It's his problem that he supposedly didn't take Ngannou seriously. Or realistically, couldn't clinch him to death, hold and lean on him, as he did in Wilder, and that's why he looked mighty good in that fight.

    Next part is fun, how you trying to discredit the people that voted that Ngannou win, based on your biased view, and say they were biased. CST80 is one of the posters on here that is not scoring fights based on his preference, but how he sees it.
    And whether some people like it or not, i'm also one of this people. We both had it similar for Ngannou.

    And this is without the clear as day not given second KD, and not given penalty for clear intentional blatant illegal elbow.

    Again you may wanna close your eyes for a blatant corruption, but some of us don't.

    And it's not good that you are not happy with this fight, nothing wrong with your opinion, but my point was mainly why this is a great fight for AJ, and Boxing as a whole, and how it's different to the Fury ones.
    And every single reason, is 100% reasonable and valid.
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This based on what ?

    Wallin was number 2 ranked in IBF and was top 10 in every single Ranking, including Ring.
    Ngannou is ranked number 10 by the WBC as well. He should be number 1, as he beat Tyson the Gypsy Fraud. Whether people like it or not.
     
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  13. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ngannou is the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the World for me as well.
     
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  14. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it’s mind-boggling why posters disagree with an unbiased poster like yourself… :lol:
     
  15. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see your view of Wallin has changed recently after he called No Mas after a few rounds against Joshua.

    The guy who was apparently “too risky” for Hearn and Joshua.
     
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