Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MixedMartialLaw, Jan 5, 2024.


Naganou-Joshua, who wins?

  1. Naganou KO

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  2. Joshua KO

    128 vote(s)
    74.0%
  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Imagine a fringe youtube channel making up fake quotes and it getting parroted all the way to this forum.

    @lordlosh you going to right yourself?

    Meanwhile here's some real quotes from Anthony Joshua:

    "Why do I feel like this"
    "I'm not a 12 round fighter"
    "I'm a businessman"
    "I'm fighting where the titles are" (Eddie Hearn decides not him hence Francis fight)

    Robert Garcia @ round 4 Vs Usyk: "you've won every round" AJ: "Be smart"
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Do you disappear when Usyk loses in February @lordlosh?

    I suspect you wanted that bet, because you are afraid to be on here posting the day Fury wins?

    You should at least post for 1 day. Don't take this the wrong way mate, I have nothing personal with you, it's banter. However, you by FAR have talked the most s..t regarding Fury and Aj, so if Fury wins? I think you need to eat a little humble pie. But I suspect you will disappear until Fury loses or looks rubbish again

    Anyway, it's your call.

    Edit

    You get banned whe they fight, no matter who wins?
    Was nice knowing you pal, hope you honour your post. Enjoy the next few weeks
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sure Hearn will have a rematch clause, get a big cash out Ngannou rematch 6-12 months later.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've no doubt NGannou would take 3 big paydays in a row like that, but if he actually beats anyone other than Fury he atleast justifies the noise he's made.

    Right now it seems much more likely Fury just didn't train for the fight.
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Ngannou beats Joshua, would Ngannou be the most accomplished 1-1 pro boxer ever? I suspect so.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He is to boxing what Lesnar was to UFC
     
  7. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    To be fair mate, I'm happy for him to see the final bell. After the Fury Ngannou debarcle, if Fury doesnt turn up 100% commited, I wouldnt be bothered if Usyk won anyway.

    But either way, fight happens next and I'd hope our friend would be a man of his word.

    Just wish Spravlidev was still around, he enticed me into a bet for his sig which I was hoping would come to fruition.
    Ah well, cant win 'em all.
     
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  8. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    At the very least they were quotes from way before Wilder lost to parker back when Hearn was originally trying to agree a fight with Ngannou instead of fighting Wilder.

    This is precisely what the internet brings, no mark, spiteful haters, taking quotes out of the original context and attempting to spin them off as current fact in order to bring further hateful comments on an individual from other brain dead gullable fools.

    Such is loshes irrational hate, i'm beginning to think Lord losh might actually be Deontay Wilders son.
     
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  9. TheMozartThug

    TheMozartThug New Member Full Member

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    Who is lord losh? Is he a creator on YT? Can't find anything about him??
     
  10. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's because he is the fighter we're discussing, you moron. I've actually defended AJ in the past and have shat on Fury multiple times, but since you're so deluded, you can only comprehend that it's only your man that's being dissed. I've just got to have a bias against AJ, don't I ? God forbid a fighter is being criticised for legitimate reasons and not because someone's a hater.
    You're really desperate, aren't you ? :lol: I didn't change ****, I said AJ needs to fight a proven fighter and that Wallin is most likely not top 10 worthy, as an addendum. How is that ''changing the narrative'' ? You know just as well as I do how much this forum hates Joshua. Half the dumbasses here would pick guys like Miller, Dubois and Bakole to beat him, and now you're claiming that Wallin was a proven fighter because those same idiots thought that he had done enough to beat AJ ? Everyone Wallin fought past Fury and pre Gassiev wasn't just ''not great'', they were absolutely horrible. And Gassiev hadn't done jack at HW. The only argument Wallin has for being top 10 is the Fury fight, which was almost 5 damn years ago. Now that's totally a top 10 type of guy. :facepalm:
    Who the **** cares who Ortiz fought prior to Wilder ? We're talking about the division right now. Ortiz is certainly the more proven of the 2 right now with his controversial loss to Ruiz, and should rank higher than him if he is still active. If you want to say that AJ fighting Wallin is not worse than the other established HWs fighting equally unproven fighters at the time, then you'd be right, I mean just look at Wilder. That still doesn't mean Wallin was a proven fighter. And are you actually resorting to doing the ''who has X fighter beaten hadn't he beaten Y fighter'' ? :lol:. You know damn well Hrgovic having a close fight with Zhang is better than anything Wallin has done since fighting Fury. I don't care if Wallin or anybody else is avoided, all I care about is how proven a fighter is by the things he has actually done in recent time, not by what he could have done.
    It's literally what happened though:lol: Of course it's on him, he ****ed up and he should pay the consequences, whatever the reason he looked like that is irrelevant, it's obvious. But you're deluding yourself if you think that means Ngannou fought a good version of Fury, thus making him a proven fighter. Saying that this is an excuse is like saying that AJ looking gunshy against Helenius prior to the KO is an excuse. No, it's not. It's literally what happened.
    Can you actually read ? Or is your bias blinding you ? I never claimed Chris was a bad scorer, I literally called him ''a very good scorer'', just not an unbiased one due to his unreasonable GGG and Loma cards, which is the truth. Sounds to me like you just have too much of a soft spot for him by calling him the best scorer ''by far''. And I get it, he's a great scorer most of the time, but you're fooling yourself if you think he is always right. And since when was Rummy pro Fury ? I know McGrain defended him for longer than most did, but he literally claimed he wanted him to retire after the Ngannou fight, so that's clearly over now.

    Funny how you want to claim that I'm changing the narrative, prior to claiming that they scored it for Fury because they're biased. If you want to deny the reality that this could have gone either way, then be my guest.
    It's already been established that half of the general forum is riddled with idiots. Why are you making it out to be as if I'm the one that said these things, and as if all of this means that AJ should go ahead and fight him ? If Joshua doesn't drop the ball, he most likely smashes Ngannou. That doesn't mean that it would be a good fight for AJ's legacy or the progress of the HW division. The only good thing that can come from it is the end of the obnoxious Ngannou hype train from the casuals and MMA fans
    It doesn't do you good, trying to actually change an in-fight decision from the ref when scoring a fight. You can acknowledge that the ref did not deduct any points and chastise it, but you cannot change it. And let's be real, you only care because Fury was within an inch of losing the fight, had it been a fighter you didn't know about, you wouldn't have given a **** about it. So don't try to take the moral high ground here. You are factually obliged to score it accordingly to the ref's decisions during a fight. Don't like it ? That's your problem to deal with.
    I don't know, ask the Fury fanboys who think that he is a 6'9 270 lbs Muhammad Ali. It may be a novel idea to you, but I don't particularly care for either AJ or Fury and don't consider either to be a future great, as much as that goes against the shallow black and white world half this forum operates in.
    When did I ever say that Fury should be excused for all of that ? This whole back and forth boils down to you crying at your keyboard about how much better Joshua is than Fury, and about how mad you are at the unreasonable Fury fanboys and the AJ haters. Oh, well Joshua can fight whoever he wants to fight, despite not having beaten a top opponent since Ruiz ! He has been the most active HW in 2023, and his mediocre opposition is actually good, they weren't just tune up fights to come back after the Usyk losses ! And assuming that the very hot and cold Joshua doesn't embarrass the sport even further, the Ngannou fight is going to be great ! And it's not good that you don't agree with that !

    That's what you're practically saying, and all of it is just a bunch of negligible nonsense. So don't even bother responding to me, and if you do, I won't bother reading it. I'm having a hard time seeing you actually understand how perverse you're being right now. So let's just put this tiring and pointless back and forth to a close.
     
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  11. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    He's a dear friend and the OP.... He's probably off making a new account...

    Hang on a darn sec...... (jks - welcome to the boards)
     
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  12. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Really really really don't care. Full Member

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    Don't believe anything CounterW**K says. The guy is a moron and failed actor.
     
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  13. TheMozartThug

    TheMozartThug New Member Full Member

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    So he's just some random guy posting on here then lol
     
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  14. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Thats it exactly.

    But you didnt sign up just to post twice in this thread about Losh surely. Don't you have thoughts on the thread topic buddy? Or any other thread over the 38 minutes since you posted your first ever post?

    Would love to hear your opinion on the topic and also the upcoming Undisputed fight.
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd argue there's zero point in fighting a 0-1 UFC fighter. Wilder would still have a decent chance beating AJ, and just because he lost his last fight doesn't mean he's shot.