Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MixedMartialLaw, Jan 5, 2024.


Naganou-Joshua, who wins?

  1. Naganou KO

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  2. Joshua KO

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I love your avatar. I think I'll make it wall art in my house.
     
  2. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These prima donna's have been holding the HW division hostage for years now. Watching them get put to sleep will be cathartic for boxing fans.
     
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  3. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What is the OP thinking? :shakehead: Of all the HWs to pick to save face for boxing?? :thinking:

    There are other HWs besides Wilder that can step up if Francis defeats AJ. The real question in this scenario is where does AJ go from a defeat?
     
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  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    lol! Wilder needs to retire and Usyk would box Ngannou`s ears off.
     
  6. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Two fighters who got out-classed in their last bouts and would get beat by Francis.
     
  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Fair enough. Let's see how he does.

    I'll be rooting for Joshua though, just for the sake of the sport's integrity. Nothing against Ngannou, but I don't like the idea of the HW division being taken over by skill-less walking tanks.
     
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  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    How has Joshua been holding the division hostage? He's one of the few keeping it alive and moving. It's cowards like Fury and Wilder that have been stagnating the division and sitting on belts they refuse to unify. Joshua's one of the good guys.
     
  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yeah, an Ngannou win could dim some peoples view of boxing/boxers.

    But that would be due to a lack of understanding of features unique to HWs and lack of appreciation of what an extraordinary athlete Ngannou is - aside from his original and primary combat style of choice (MMA).

    Even between two dedicated HW boxers, where there is an obvious disparity in skill - anything can still happen when uncommon size, strength and power are involved.

    Just imo, but crossover successes in divisions < HW are far less likely.

    Given all that, I’m happy to root for Francis - his winning wouldn’t necessarily be a blight on boxing - at least aside from a casual’s view point.
     
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  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    If AJ wins I don’t think that will confirm that Ngannou is devoid of skill.

    It’s still only his second pro fight.

    Whatever Fury’s condition was, Francis nullified and exceeded Tyson on several, key H2H points of advantage that Fury usually enjoys.

    It wasn’t as if Fury started out okay and then flagged - Francis was doing well from the start
    and though he tried, Fury couldn’t nut him out.

    Certainly Francis’ hand speed was a revelation - in hindsight, we assume that he was sandbagging in the lead up training clips.

    It seems his extraordinary reach wasn’t prepared for either - if one can prepare and find a way to combat same.

    Also, Francis was very mindful of his own stamina - an an unknown quantity, even for him, in his first pro outing.

    By association, his output was well considered and limited - and, ironically, I thought the approach really worked for him in terms of it being “less is more”.

    Load up and punch when the opportunities were there - otherwise, adequately defend yourself during the interim periods.

    The type of efficient economy that reminds me of Joe Louis.

    But AJ is a totally different kettle of fish - even as compared to the best version of Fury. AJ is a better skilled boxer imo - and he fights far more cleanly than Fury.

    I’ve said it before, but without AJ being such a clean fighter and relying on his pure skill set, maybe Usyk wouldn’t have been allowed to shine as brightly as he did against AJ. So all credit to Joshua for keeping them open and clean fights.

    So let’s see if Francis can’t apply and custom himself to a opponent of a somewhat different skill set.

    Finally, I think AJ is taking Francis seriously enough - so that might be interpreted as a strong recommendation of the bonafide attributes that Ngannou upheld against Fury.
     
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  11. Djokovic.GOAT

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    You are a disgrace for boxing group if you support Frank. You will support Joshua this week! I am telling you! You will! If Joshua would lose, boxing will die in HW. Fury destroyed everything. Joshua will have to rescue everybody's arse once again. Your undertestimating of casual influence is just arrogant and ignorant. This can influence next generations of future boxers if that Cameroon lab monster will win.

    You remind me that people without children who support migration to Europe from middle East and Africa no matter what. You don't think about future of boxing in analogy.

    I really can not believe my eyes what happening here. Hate on Joshua is the biggest in HW boxing history. Rather than support Joshua... You stab boxing into back. Are you a Judas? I am so disappointed..... So bad, so bad.
     
  12. drenlou

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    This is a good card, looking forward to Vargas-Ball.
     
  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua has to go in a warm favourite but is no certainty. If Ngannou lands early, Joshua's self belief may desert him again and anything could happen then.
     
  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    That was a good Clown post. Honking your horn but absolutely non convergent. And for your next trick…? :lol:
     
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  15. BoB Box

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    Hey Pug! Good to see you my friend!
     
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