Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

Joshua would KO both of them, from the looks of it. PDQ

 

I like that line of thinking, though I think the reason MT kicks were so prevalent in sports like K-1 is simply that they were easier to consistently land, and less prone to being countered. Look at this fight between Francisco Filho and Rick Roufus. Roufus throws push kicks to the kneecaps and Filho just moves his legs a bit and counters with a Kyokushin roundhouse to the thigh. This repeats for three rounds until Roufus has to capitulate due to the damage.

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So there are pros and cons to both techniques.

 

I think thats a good argument!

I didnt mean these thigh kicks are complete uselss. My point was more the knee cap is more vunerable as the thigh, and most kickboxers, thai boxers etc rarely kick to the knee.

Cro Cop landed a cool TKO with a knee kick againt the biggest MMA fighter ever, Hongman Choi. He kicked him in the back of the knee.

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Choi took the hardest low kicks to the thigh from Jerome Le Banner, Schilt, Bonjasky and Hari without going down once. But Cro Cop s kick to the back of the knee did the job.

 

Which two?

Bonjasky and Rountree?

 

The white guy and the black guy, throwing low kicks. Incoming

 

oh my god, bruh plz shut up you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

 

A lot of those thigh kicks though tended to be aimed at the inside of the leg, just above the knee joint, which is an extremely sensitive and vulnerable area which also contains a lot of veins and blood vessels. The ones on the outside tended to be to the thinnest part of the thigh rather than the meaty part higher up, and often had a destabilising effect on the knee joint. Look at any of the top kickers from that period, Hoost probably being the best example. His kicks almost hooked round the back of the leg, but almost always cause massive joint damage as well as muscular bruising. Other great leg kickers like Filho and Hug also aimed their leg kicks at the side of the joint or the inner knee.

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Le Banner and Hari I wouldn't say were particularly good/accurate kickers. Well Hari could be, but he was also prone to extreme sloppiness. He was kind of like the Wilder of K-1.

 

You mean Schilt and Jones?

Ok.

Some people in a german boxing forum today wrote nobody claims AJ would be the favorite against world class K-1 fighters in K-1 or world class MMA fighters in MMA. I told them there are ppl in english forums who think so. You underline it .

Do you also think AJ would KO Fedor Emelianenko in an MMA fight? I hope you dont. Would be the biggest circus joke of all time.

 

Go to bed.

 

That kick to the back of the knee looked like it popped the PCL

 

Le Banner stopped prime Bernardo with low kicks. He could kick pretty well when he wanted to.

 

I cant disagree to something. Well described!

But so or so: The savate kick "chasse bas" has a different "method" like all the others kicks. It goes in a straight line to the knee cap. And the way how Jones performs his kicks, they look like these chasses bras kicks, not like muay thai, kickboxing etc.

So its a good thing for any all-round fighter to have this savate kick in his arsenal.

 

Bernardo was also really prone to leg kicks. It was one of his biggest weaknesses. I can't think of too many other top level fighters JLB stopped with leg kicks. His main KO weapons were his fists.

 

Rick Rufus. In fight where he wasn't having much success with his hands so made the adjustments and broke him down with low kicks. JLB was the complete package at his best. Sure his hands where his main weapon but he still was good at chaining everything together. Much more of a complete fighter than Hari.

 

I agree. It's a very useful technique and one you don't often see in kickboxing/MMA. I also think the Sanda push kick to the body is an underrated technique which tends to get a bit of short shrift. Cung Le's about the only decent proponent of it I've seen in top level MMA. There were a couple of Sanda guys in K-1 as well, but I don't recall them being particularly high quality.

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