Anthony Joshua vs Joe Frazier championship opposition

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Does AJ have enough to make it past this gauntlet of foes?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    AJ defends against the following, all as Frazier fought them:

    Buster Mathis
    Manuel Ramos
    Oscar Bonavena
    Dave Zyglewicz
    Jerry Quarry
    Jimmy Ellis
    Bob Foster
    Muhammad Ali
    Terry Daniels
    Ron Stander
    George Foreman

    Does AJ make it through this rogues gallery?
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Foreman would KO AJ, but would be behind on points, AJ`s jab and speed may be too much in the early going, but I feel Foreman`s body shots could make him gas, I feel the latter rounds would be like the Lyle fight, AJ would have had a better chance over 12 rounds, I feel AJ would outbox the Ali that fought Frazier in the thirst fight because his training and conditioning is so much better. I feel those two were the only ones here that could trouble AJ bar a lucky punch off of a couple of the others.
     
  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Not sure about that Foreman, but I think he should win a UD over that Ali, having longer reach and enough power to win rounds, with no power coming back from Ali.
    He certainly could tag Foreman before getting tagged himself. This one for me is more close.

    He beats the rest, most brutally.
     
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  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Idk way to early in his career for me to make a solid judgment. I think he could lose several of these fights. Or he could win most. Stamina, chin, ability to adapt has not been seen yet imo. Could easily see Ali winning as well as George. With some nice tests from Oscar and Jimmy.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Though his career isnt over so its hard to judge... No lol

    Aj doesn't even get that far in.

    He beats most with ease, though I can see him going to war with Bonevea and getting tagged and knocked down by some bad shots by Foster, he pulls through.

    Then he meets Ali and loses

    Luckily that saves him from the humiliation of an early knockout to George Foreman
     
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  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People seem to have a lot of confidence in Foremans power given the small size of his opponents
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Too early? I think AJ is in his prime now. As good as he's going to get. I mean, he could improve. But I don't think it will be vastly so. Although, Lennox Lewis was a little bit older than AJ is now when we saw the best of Lewis, so who knows.
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Foster was likely the hardest punching light heavyweight we've seen thus far, but it didn't seem like his punching power translated well to the heavyweight ranks. It seems that Moore, Moorer or even Spinks would have a better chance at dropping AJ because it seemed, at least to me, like their punching power translated better to heavyweight up from light heavyweight.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    If AJ could survive Foreman in the early rounds, Foreman would be in trouble.
     
  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. I like AJ and think he has a ton of potential, but he's still needs another 5-10 fights to reach his full potential.
    Mathis, Bonavena, Quarry, and Foreman would be very tough fights for Joshua.

    Joshua would beat Stander, Daniels, and Foster.

    Ramos and Ellis would be 50/50 fights. If Joshua's technique was more polished he'd destroy them both, but at the moment that just isn't the case. The rookie mistakes that Joshua makes would play right into the strengths of a skilled fighter like Ellis. Ramos was also a good fighter and had a good counter right, but Frazier ruined him like he did a lot of fighters.

    Mathis, Quarry, Foreman, and Bonavena most likely beat Joshua.

    Joshua as he is now would lose to Ali. Ali was too cagey and smart for a greenhorn like Joshua.

    If Joshua completely neutralizes Povetkin and soundly beat him I'll change my opinion on how Joshua would do against Quarry and Bonavena.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I would guess that he soundly beats Mathis, Bonavena and Quarry.

    Foreman..... either he stops AJ early or he doesn't stop him at all. It boils down to can AJ take Foreman's power. If he can, he wins. If he can't he ends up like Norton. I'd like to see him fight Wilder. That would put to rest, IMO, the question of how AJ would cope with Foreman's punching power.

    Ali may have pulled out the W.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AJ is a gret prospect but still hard to say how well he would do with that Frazier left hook. AJ is the best right now of this Big generation of heavyweights but time will tell, always does

    He has physical advantages over Frazier but I have never seen him survive a consistant relentless Frazier like left hook yet.

    He showed a lot surviving Vlad but as we have seen with Lennox Lewis & Vlad, Price, the really big guys dont always have giant chins
     
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  13. cross_trainer

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    Grandpa Foreman remained a hard hitter in the 90s division.

    Unless you believe that Grandpa Foreman was a bigger puncher than the prime one, or believe that the 90s division was also weaker than today, I think it's reasonable to assume 70s George was a hard hitter.
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Young Foreman was more explosive and aggressive so that could have made a difference
     
  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Well I was asking how he'd likely do against Frazier's opponents.