Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

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Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua

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  2. Muhammad Ali

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    73.7%
  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If you think he would have that nick name in the current Hw era..well.....:facepalm:

    Also foreman never got much clear shots on Alis jaw,the ones that did land were grazing shots ,the few that did land welll were FEW. Would have nothing to do with fast accurate Joshua who would literally destroy Ali on the ropes if he went there and FAST. i know you will argue this but i know you make up your views ,not really what happened like with foreman throwing shots at ali .

    At least i hope you changed your mind that 6'5 lewis would be harder to hit than 6'0 Lewis but i doubt it. lol
     
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  2. Mr.DagoWop

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    Provide actual proof in the form of FACTS that Cooper wouldn't have that nickname. Not opinions based on facts, observable FACTS.

    Foreman landed enough shots on Ali's chin. It only takes 1 from Foreman.

    That's ironic that you say I make up my views considering you are the one saying that Joshua is fast and accurate. Joshua is average in both of those categories. Considering he hasn't fought anyone worth talking about, his accuracy would probably be **** against Ali.

    Lol a 6' fighter with an 82" reach is harder to hit than a 6'5 fighter. Ever heard of Sam Langford? I know you aren't that well versed in boxing history but Langford was 5'7" but had a long reach for someone his size and that made it hard for guys who were 6'2+ to land on him.
     
  3. GALVATRON

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    Joshua is the most explosive SHW in boxing history ...its that simple.

    Ali had trouble blocking simple straight lined jabs( its in practically every fight he fought who throws them) he couldnt block left hooks to save his life,and could not fight effectively going forward because he relied on the back peddling tactic and playing tag. All these thing cooupled with difficulties of aggressive fighters spells DOOM...capital D from a 6'6 athletic giant who possess hidden skills of boxing Iq im not going to get into now....

    The OLD point of WELL HE WILL GET TIRED isnt legit....can anyone point out the evidence that Joshua ( who is a tri athlete BTW) will tire? HOw would Ali tire out Joshua ...is he going to get him dizzy by running circles around him? i guess so bc it certainly wont be punches...lol I see Ali literally huffing over his stool in many fights,and thats bc he where he LACKED actual skills he used his legs alot when setting up punches. Joshua would have LITTLE problem cutting the ring off the smaller Ali.



    Joshua would TOY with him! And thats a simple summary of one such as Ali of not even having a significant speed advantage bc he would need to be near 220 just to withstand a complete blow out. and at 220 he was not the speed demon boxing fans THINK he was. his style and the fact he relied on his OWN reach wouldnt even be there for him here up against a elite skilled talent who could also hit HARD.

    now you can listen to the OTHERS who THINK they know about this match or me .....in the end i know what im talking about,the others are just cheerleading. And for the record i picked Joshua 2 years ago to be the new level era champion in his 10th fight or so ..i did this bc i KNOW boxing. If you go through all the posts i posted it pretty much is clear as day why Ali loses this as well as some other good posts others posted.

    Just remember Muhammed Ali is a PERSON not a SKILL i believe there is alot of delusion on that because SKILLs are what we are comparing as well as the REAL person,i honestly think these posters dont believe Joshua is real and hes some sort of mirage thats the only reasonable excuse i have for them and their off the wall observations here! Example would be dago flops post to me bc he represents the poster boy of know nothing about boxing...go read that for a chuckle! :thumbsup:
     
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  4. GALVATRON

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    im actually glad you are posting here.....EXAMPLE A^^^^^^^^ right here ! lol
     
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  7. Mr.DagoWop

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    And I'm glad you didn't post another shitty 80s movie clip Uncle Termite.
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

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    Lol
     
  9. GALVATRON

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    well who over 240 is? let me guess and dwell into Dago Flops self deluded world here....Primo Carnera right? :biggrin:
     
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    Everything you wrote makes perfect sense but I still think you are overrating Joshua. (for example his impressive athletic past was before he turned into the hulk,too much muscle correlates with gas tank failure in the ring)

    I still believe Ali could hurt Joshua and find ways to evade/survive until the late rounds before outscoring a tired behemoth (muscles need oxygen) or even getting a Formanesque TKO. That said I can see that it may be too much of an ask considering the arguments you make for Joshua so Ali goes in the underdog but still a live one for my money.

    How does Joshua compare to R. Bowe? Would you favour present AJ against prime Bowe?
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    The most obvious is Wlad.
     
  12. GALVATRON

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    Wlad isnt explosive! He doesnt move anything like Joshua,which is WHY he needs the outside jab.Hes FASTER than Joshua slightly punch for punch and doesnt come close to his combination punching when throwing more than 2 punches.
     
  13. Mr.DagoWop

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    Wlad's right hand is better than anything Joshua throws. Explosiveness is speed + power. Not moving around a certain way...lol
     
  14. GALVATRON

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    Riddick bowes inside game is limited though effective,He fights from a narrow stance on the inside and has to sweep his right across his body and manuever through parrying,Joshua fights from the front stance and this enables him to use 2 hands much more effectively to bowes mainly right hand. Joshua does this by slipping shots and ducking under this generates a much better full front assault and creates much more targets to hit instead off bowes limited stance of defending then punchiing in a narrow stance.

    Bowe had very heavy legs he wasnt light on his feet at all. Joshua throws excellent combinations from a frontal stance getting maximum leverage on his shots and is able to do that bc he has skills to duck and slip punches in close quarters unlike Bowes sideway parry one . This enables Joshua to use two hands much more effectvely to mix up those head to body shots , Bowe was somewhat limited of just sweeping the right hand across his body .

    The footwork is what really seperates them ,Joshua is completely opposite of Bowe . He uses great explosive back and forth movements and resets when openings arent there ,he excells in judging distance and is always just far away to dictate the fight . Ive also noticed he blocks an opponents jab before they throw it and hooks simultaneously at times .

    I honestly cant see the slower handed and footed Bowe winning here ,i think not only would you see Golota thudding like jabs land but Joshuas boxing IQ to always create just enough distance to land those short combos and shovel upper cuts all the while keeping distance when he needed would be to much . Bowe also didnt like tall jabbers who had a jab,Joshua has a stiffer harder jab,though he doesnt need it really bc of his style.When he uses it its very effective he actually ended the Breazeale fight with it.


    Bowe WOULD create a more threat than Ali,because he would not be so easily pushed back,and he can fight on the inside.
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  15. GALVATRON

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    It matters little, Joshuas set ups far exceed Wlads. EVERYONE knows what Wlad does they just cant avoid the one two punch combo because they dont have the skill, joshua does .know one knows where Joshua will attack hes much more diverse. Explosiveness is also the way one moves.Joshua can move at a much rangier space than Wlad ,the combination punching is not even close this is EXPLOSIVENESS as well.