Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

That was a uppercut from hell delivered by Briedis.

 

I can't believe this train is still rolling. Goes to show that you can't reason with people who are blinded by love

 

Now that's what we call a schooling!

 

Terrell was as off balance/slow and uncoordinatted in general as ive seen.He also was around 210 or something? This fight right here should show how much the MODERN better Hw actually is, you could use far less fighters than Joshua to show that.. He couldnt even hit hard for a HW. The sheer length of Terrell is why he could get to Ali thats ALL he needed. He also fought the majority of the fight with one eye due to illegal thumb in the eye when gloves then were made different. i highly doubt it made a differance bc Terrell was not very skilled or a huge threat here.

 

He who posts last, wins!

 

The sheer length of Joshua is all that you need.

 

Your vids prove my point .The first vid is circling around,it looks something out of a three stooges skit!..circling,which i already stated he would have to do to defeat Joshua( how i dont know hes not throwing any punches) .Showing clips is not showing his entire fights.Where against Liston is he not moving straight back? Thats EXACTLY what hes doing along with slight circling.And thats WHY hes eating stiff jabs did you see that one at 2:55 or are you going to also ignore it and say he wasnt hit ? lol


Liston left hand might as well be cut off here because hes holding chest level SLOWLY walking forward( no DEFENSE whatsoever or head movement with STIFF legs ) which produces no mobility.Hes taking alot of shots to land one,but thats what he has to work with ( keep in mind liston is past his prime here)

The one thing Liston is doing is ducking under the jab at times but he cant cut off the ring for anything and thats bc what i stated above. He simply resorts to lunging left hooks bc the guy has poor footwork to set up practical shots. Everytime liston slips a punch under,he does not throw back ,and thats bc he doesnt have those counter punching skills or speed to do that.He doesnt even know where Ali is moving bc he has his head DOWN ,which doesnt LET him set up for counters because you need to SEE the target and look where your opponent is ( this is better skill ? ) He might as well wear a blind fold.

RND 3 Beginning rnd liston completey looks like a desperate man who forgot how to fight....however he STILL is able to back Ali up ALL the time into the ropes,he simply isnt skilled to cut the ring off so this LETS Ali keep circling him.The only Reason liston landed some flurries on ali towards the end here,is Ali is huffing and looks tired( yet you guys comment about stamina),Ali is taking deep breaths and thats only bc hes tired from moving around the ring ,not taking punches. liston actually buckled ali brielfy with a body shot on the ropes and then lands a right hand,Ali then is pushed back to the other side of the ropes and eats a uppercut trying to hold on for dear life( THIS IS IN THE VIDEO) he then eats more punches and now in the other corner briefly.

Rnd 4 they showed nothing...I'll stop there!

Lets get back to the ACTUAL match here...Joshua would cut the ring off on ali,he would hit him hard/fast and deliver excellent execution with his set ups.He would have the ability to counter punch as well and certainly not lunging in 3 feet away aimlessly with poor footwork and less skills than Liston. liston is ENTIRELY opposite of Joshua...poor accuracy/limited speed and defense,he carries less power and ring IQ along with being hugely outsized. Yet gave Ali a run for his money with multiple rounds ...but Joshua has no chance here? Come on now! lol

 

why would it ,when was Ali a Puncher?

 

Once again showing your LACK of knowing what you are talking about. Lateral movement is moving on either side right or left while being off center line.Ali moved in circles but mostly in center line of his opponent. Don't believe me ? why not watch an ENTIRE fight...how about Chuvalo one then come back and tell me how many overall punches that the much smaller /slower Chuvalo landed?

Having effective footwork means that you can defend yourself at all times whilst remaining attacking mode Without holding the stance correctly with also proper head protection at the right time, limits ability to hit and not be hit and is inferior. Footwork is the technique of controlling the opponent inside a boxing ring. when pressured Ali cannot use lateral movements effectively this has already been showed by MUCH smaller slower Frazier and did so with simply worrying Ali of duck and slipping jabs while returning left hooks to keep him going one direction and that was mainly BACKWARD. LONG circling movements is not lateral movement it is simply circling out of distance and certainly isn't effective movement if one can stop it.


Joshua has better concepts how to nutralize ring cutting WAY more than Ali has to avoid it. His shots land right on target almost always and Whilst possessing a killer punch is one thing, the ability to bring that kind of precision to the ring pays for itself, if you cant see how both style wise /skill wise and physically this wont go good for Ali just based on Alis OWN footage of his faults...well......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Velcro all day over laces. Lacoste Protector for all the wins!

 

Wrong Terrell was significantly faster than Joshua, but was reduced to clinching and rabbit punching Ali in a fight. Terrell had a far better resume than Joshua had, and had all the experience to deal with Ali, but he could not. Ali played with him in the ring, much the same way Ali would play with Joshua.

 

You spent entire day looking up breakdowns and catchphrases and still ducked %95 of my response.

I've seen full fights of Ali against Foreman, Fraizer and Norton triologies, Liston 1&2, Terrell, Spinks,Chuvalo an so on. What kind of a mental ilness, what kind of idiocy does it take to claim that Ali didn't have the movement to effectively defend himself with? Yes, he could move laterally, to the right, to the left, could switch his direction extremely quick while sticking to his jab, he could circle around, could jump in and out and throw punches from all different angles. He left opponents with his movement alone, they got so frustrated that they started to get wild with his punches, some of them looked totally clueless in the ring because finding the target was so hard. You expect people to beieve in Joshua's superiority BASED ON THE GARY CORNISH FIGHT and then go on to claim Ali had **** defence based on his fight with Fraizer, against an explosive, unpredictable offensive machine with the best lead left hook in the division's history. If you can't see the stupidity in this logic, It means there's no hope for you.

It was explained before that Ali wasn't the most focused and disciplined athlete and sometimes fought down to level of his opponents. Yeah, he got hit a little bit too much against Chuvalo, mainly because he wasn't focused on his defence at all.

As for last paragraph, this has bee asked to you before but you keep ducking it like a ******. Anyone can land punches right on target against a punching bag, but name one Joshua opponent, who had good head and upperbody movement, who had good footspeed in the pros to suggest he has good accuracy and good command of range. One. Just one. Otherwise, GTFO with this bull****.

 

You mean the Molina that a 50 year old Foreman would've easily beaten.

 

I wouldn't understand! Says the great Oracle of this board.
Both weren't fast on their feet but they certainly weren't slower than Joshua, and Foreman was vastly superior in cutting the ring off.
Liston also had a much better and flexible all round game to fall back on than Joshua.
You use the mighty Eric Molina who entered the ring for a pay day and was crapping himself and tested Joshua to zero effect as an example of Joshua's great footwork.
Do me a favour.