Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

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Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua

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  2. Muhammad Ali

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  1. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    That ain’t Ali prime 1967 is,when no one catches him not after a 3 year lay off .what skills have these new heavies got.I haven’t seen any one who can jab better than Holmes move better than Ali punch harder than foreman/shavers/Tyson recover from shots better than Ali/ Holmes throw right hand leads faster than Ali have more self belief than Ali more intimidating than Tyson throw combinations faster than Ali/Tyson go 15 rounds throwing punches constantly Ali/Frazier what new level of skill are you talking about and don’t say bigger with a jab that is so strong it knocks 6ft3 220lb fighters out of ring that’s just delusional Klitschko has got a glass chin that’s why he has fought cautiously all his career ever since he got sparked out (don’t forget a 45 year old foreman with no movement walked into the 90s era with these 240lb heavies and they couldn’t knock him down there’s no new level only big guys who look like they would be better but they are not.
     
  2. Birmingham

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    I didn't say " a new level of skill" you did. I said "new level" meaning all round improved, size speed athleticism..I'm not one for being anal about grammar, but this is a job an a half to understand. I don't mind going back and forth with people on here but your adding bull**** to it. "Bigger with a jab that is so strong it knocks 6ft3 220lb fighters out the ring thats just delusional" PMSL..I'd be as bad as you if I carried on with this !
     
  3. john roberts

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    I’m just going on what you and other people have put to my reply’s stuff like Ali never took such a powerful jab it’s a demolishion job 2 rounds etc if you don’t mean skill and none of these lumps are as athletic and fast as Ali especially if Ali had the same nutrition and training etc what exactly do you mean and you are right I am stopping posting because it’s just a circle job I get it josh is probably your era and you want to believe they are better ps read some of the unbelievable posts josh fans have put, are you trying to say that Brazeel Cornish Stiverne Whyte wilder (the windmilling octopus) drug cheat Ortiz is a new level of athleticism please, goodbye I will post again when josh has fought someone
     
  4. Birmingham

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    Again, your listing fighters and opinions that haven't come from me. My era ??? I don't have one. AJ has already fought the main man after Fury. Wilder is scared of Whyte ffs..Again, grammar makes this unbearable to read ! You've picked domestic level fighters to bolster your argument as well. Why not stay with who I said ?? Klit bros, Lewis, Bowe and I forgot Fury.
     
  5. HerolGee

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    if size was all then that giant guy who played the Dwead Pirate Woberts in Princess Bride would have beaten Ali. but it didnt happen.
     
  6. john roberts

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    They all have a chance they are greats except fury but it’s certainly not a forgone conclusion like I said before Holyfield Byrd ie smaller heavies beat or draw these people with Lewis Rahman McCall k o .you said new level that means all the fighters in this era you are saying a new level are you not but we are talking about Joshua and at the moment he isn’t prime Klitschko ,Lewis,bowe and they have been beaten by the small heavies I’ve pointed out before so why cant you believe Ali won’t beat these big men like Holyfield and Byrd and others did and josh isn’t there level yet and I said probably your era
     
  7. john roberts

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    If main man you mean 41 yr Klitschko then the depth must be deep
     
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  8. Birmingham

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    Your a ****** fella..
     
  9. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    Ps sorry about the grammar but I’m doing this while doing other things on the go I’m not anal about it at all
     
  10. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    Is that because I don’t lay down and take your bull like some others and give examples We’ll if that’s a ****er then I am
     
  11. Birmingham

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    Bringing terrible super heavys to the table when you know I'm on about elites. Moving the goal posts to suit your argument. Who the **** talks Gary Cornish when using examples of todays super heavys. Why not stick to the best being matched up against the best
     
  12. Birmingham

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    Pmsl yeah me ol mush, course you are !
     
  13. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why dont you ask Joshua himself on twitter?
    He will tell you 100 ways how Ali would have boxed the living hell
    out of him!
     
  14. john roberts

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    I didn’t mean to get under your skin like Ali used too, But face facts you are struggling to answer the points put to you about great super heavies losing to Ali sized guys,This is a problem for Joshua fans because those fighters are the same size and have fought a lot more quality opponents and still didn’t walk through the fighters mentioned earlier, In a nutshell Joshua isn’t as good as Lewis, bowe, Klitschko’s (prime) yet? and it blows out the idea fighters around 6ft3 and 16stone can’t beat this size fighter And Ali was one of the best of that size. Me ol mush.
     
  15. Birmingham

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    Prime ali is a 210 lb fighter not a 225 lb fighter. He is not 16 stone in the 60's, and in the 70's when he was 225( for some fights) he is not classed as prime and his advantages of fleet footedness are none existant, that's why he would lay on the ropes and take punishment. Ali is one of my favourite fighters, but i'm not letting it cloud my judgement. Gary Cornish is your argument, the most laughable gauge I've ever heard when talking elite super heavys