Anthony Joshua vs Oleksander Usyk - Discussion thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Jul 21, 2021.

Joshua vs Usyk

Poll closed Sep 24, 2021.
  1. Anthony Joshua - KO/TKO

    52 vote(s)
  2. Anthony Joshua - Decision.

    42 vote(s)
  3. Draw

    4 vote(s)
  4. Oleskander Usyk - KO/TKO

    34 vote(s)
  5. Oleksander Usyk - Decision

    27 vote(s)
  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    I can't find one of these anywhere, so I thought I'd make one.

    The fight is OFFICIALLY on. Props to Joshua for not ducking. He's definitely the most respectable boxer in the HW game right now IMO. I want him to be undisputed more than anyone else.

    I see Usyk causing Joshua problems at times, but I think Joshua's reach advantage and physical advantages in general will be the decider.

    Many seem to think Usyk will out point Joshua, but I think Joshua may win his fair share of rounds simply because he manages to catch Usyk with Jabs.

    Usyk has put on a lot of weight and considering his injuries, lack of consistent activity, and that he didn't exactly do an amazing job of evading Chisora at times, I think Joshua will be able to catch him.

    I don't think Usyk will have the same level of agility as he did at CW, despite his skills being there, and that will be the difference.

    Whether or not Usyk gaining weight is the right decision is questionable.

    TL;DR - I think Joshua will win this by late KO/TKO. He will catch Usyk eventually. I don't think Usyk will be able to evade as effectively at this weight, and Joshua has fast hands.

    The physicality of Joshua will be the difference here. IMO.
  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    Lots of votes no comments, what's everyones thoughts?
  3. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

    Oct 7, 2020
    Joshua TKO or Points. No way for Usyk to win.
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  4. testez

    testez Member Full Member

    Jul 16, 2008
    AJ is the favorite as it should be but i think the betting odds are to wide atm. At this moment the value(bet wise) is on Usyk.
  5. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    Jul 22, 2019
    If Usyk comes out unscathed from the first 5 rounds he has many chances to beat the bodybuilder even by KO ... why not?... after all the bodybuilder was dropped by an old Klitschko and a fat Ruiz who got up from a terrible KD. Though.. the bodybuilder will do anything to try to knock Usyk out in the early rounds imo because he knows Usyk Is not Whyte, Pulev, or old Povetkin. Usyk Is a smarter fighter. If Joshua instead opts for the "rabbit tactic" seen in Arabia he could lose for decision, technically Usyk is the best. But I fear that if a decision were reached the judges would reward Joshua as many here claim.

    So..all can happens in such a fight.
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2021
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  6. sasto

    sasto Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 5, 2020
    This is why I like the weight gain.
  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    Agreed. Usyk 4/1 to win on points. May bet on that TBH.
  8. MyDentedHead

    MyDentedHead Active Member banned Full Member

    Jun 1, 2021
    IF Usyk comes at Aj and makes him work the bodybuilder seems to have a gas tank problem. That is unless he comes in like ruiz 2 much leaner but i think coming in like that against Usyk would not be a good idea unless he thinks hes gonna run around for 12 rounds and get the decision but i dont think Usyk is coming to play around and do pitter patter bull**** this time hes coming to hurt AJ.
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  9. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 13, 2014
    Have gone for Joshua tko but not massively confident about it.

    Joshua does know how to fight at range behind his jab, and if he stays disciplined and focused could win a points decision in a slightly dull contest.

    Usyk putting on weight could work against him. He's not known for blasting people out his thing is all about movement, angles and workrate. That's what Joshua struggles with so why change now. Time will tell.
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  10. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 16, 2013
    I believe I'll watch Usyk outpoint AJ.

    But I also believe AJ will get the decision.
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  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    Even with fair Judges, I don't see such an advantage in skill coming from Usyk that he would seriously dominate the scorecards tbh.

    That height and reach advantage will be important, as well as Usyk not having the same level of agility he once had, and AJ having under rated hand speed also.
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  12. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 16, 2013
    Usyk doesn't have to be dominate, Usyk has to win 7 rounds and if he stays on his feet then he should win.

    That's all he has to do theoretically.

    But this is the state of boxing these days, we all know an away fighter has to dominate to have any sort of chance of getting a decision.

    Even if he does dominate, see Ritson Vazquez, outrageous, another Matchroom decision.

    We've seen with Ritson again recently, he was getting leathered, dropped, the towel comes in and the referee in my opinion was telling him all he had to do was stay in his feet.

    The scorecards were never shown, but there were serious rumours Ritson was ahead on 2 cards and that's why they were not released and never spoken about by Hearn or anybody else.

    Usyk in my opinion has a very very slim chance in the cards, but I believe he can outbox AJ, throw in the southpaw stance and AJ could struggle.
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  13. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    I definitely agree it could happen. But with Usyk being 34 now, and being slower than he was, I don't see him surviving the 2-3 bombardments he'll likely face at some point.

    Even if he doesn't get KO'd, I think the knockdowns he could suffer will be the thing that could seal the decision for AJ.

    I don't see both fighters staying on their feet, someone is getting knocked down in this fight IMO.
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  14. senpai

    senpai Active Member Full Member

    May 18, 2021
    Usyk by late stoppage, AJ willl not have that stamina.

    Usyk is stronger now and have all the tools to handle big guys.

    His speed is still better than any other HW right now.
  15. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    He needs to prove this in the ring, but it's entirely possible.