Anthony Joshua vs Oleksander Usyk - Discussion thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Jul 21, 2021.

Joshua vs Usyk

Poll closed Sep 24, 2021.
  1. Anthony Joshua - KO/TKO

    52 vote(s)
  2. Anthony Joshua - Decision.

    42 vote(s)
  3. Draw

    4 vote(s)
  4. Oleskander Usyk - KO/TKO

    34 vote(s)
  5. Oleksander Usyk - Decision

    27 vote(s)
  1. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 24, 2005
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 29, 2004
    Anything on the undercard of interest to anyone?


    Chris Ousley vs K Baysangurov. This one intrigues me slightly. Just seems a bit out of place on the card. Obviously I know the Baysangurov name but I dont believe I've seen any of this one. And I most certainly have not seen the American. So like Frank Constanza I'm going in fresh. Don't know what to expect here.

    Prodan vs Marku. I don't rate Marku all that highly but he is a guy I dont mind seeing somewhere on the prelims. He has entertained me somewhat before.
    On paper sounds alright but Prodan kind of sucks and I dont think he even hits all that hard. Had a few gifts and questionable stoppages.
    But I do think his style will gel with Marku to possibly make it a fun beatdown.

    Callum Smith vs Lenin Castillo...this one screams long and drawn out.
    Smith new weight, new trainer, coming off an injury. In there with a guy who is usually pretty negative and seems sturdy enough.
    I think we will see a lot of jabs baby but not much else.

    Okolie vs Prasovic

    What can be said about Great Britain's answer to Dhalsim that hasn't already. He is a bit more palatable lately pushing a bit harder for a stoppage.
    Lawrie probably blows him out.
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2021
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  3. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Active Member Full Member

    Jan 8, 2021
    Usyk probably beats all of Joshua's previous opponents so with that in mind it'd be his best win.
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  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Depends how old their versions.
    I don't see that Usyk might offer enough for 30-36 y.o Povetkin or some from Klits younger than 40 y.o versions, he just doesn't beat enough hard ever for a cruiserweight top.
    39 y.o Povetkin version? Yeah, 30-32 y.o Usyk I think had beat and also Takam version from A.J fight after he had been already finished by Povetkin.

    A.J win is too predictable outcome here vs 34 y.o Usyk.
    If there will be upset and A.J will appear bummy? Damn, I'm inclined to place betting on A.J to win but I fear cos A.J might gas or appear to be chinny.
    Otherwise I think it will be more than 85% chances that A.J will win vs Usyk.
  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Okolie will win this one. More interesting might be to see Okolie vs Canelo ( I have no doubts that Canelo is walking around > 180 lbs on daily basis ) to see how Okolie will KTFO Canelo.

    A.J does have too much advantages vs Usyk.
    1. Thing usually overlooked in prognosis: A.J does have considerably lower mileage under belt than Usyk. He does have more resources left. During long years elite level am competitions, I think also too much fights and training camps in am ranks under belt.
    2. While age difference 31 vs 34 might look not so impactful, if we add mileage on clock, then it is important factor.

    3. A.J is a bodybuilder. This might be big advantage in some:nonono situations in boxing too.
    He does have very high static strength, here he is very strong, damn strong.

    4. A.J does have reach advantage vs Usyk.
    5. A.J does have weight advantage vs Usyk.
  6. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    Okolie is an interesting fighter. I am looking forward to seeing him, but it's a shame that sometimes all he gets is nobodies to beat up.

    He should be up against other champs really. CW is a joke at the moment. The best are leaving for HW.
  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Or with better resumes.
    Do you think Usyk does have chances to beat A.J? Especially with Matchroom cards?
    Usyk is worse even than prime shape Glowacki to KO / TKO boxer.
    Not alone that he might beat Okolie, Okolie will KO him.

    Briedis? Old, from small country, ring rusty and looks that brittle handed.
    Does germans have real interest in him? I do not see this in real action. It is easy to understand: he is over the hill and not from proper country.
    While, yeah, old uncle might make problems, therefore better to age him more and get on short notice this uncle.
    Guy had last fight 12 months ago and still doesn't have next fight scheduled, looks that is 36 y 9 months old.
    It is clear that there nothing to talk about.
    Old, from small country, absolutely not actual.

    Makabu? Makabu does have belt, last boxer he had fought was Durodola:D, 40 y.o, boxer who when was 35 when had get beat up by then not old Briedis and in rematch vs Kudra etc. Yeah.
    Doesn't looks promising in long term.
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    Hello reader. What is your impression of Usyk's ability to feint, and with AJ's ability to deal with feinting?
  9. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

    Jul 13, 2021
  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    You do not make any sense. Like most " experts " here.

    Do you really make sense? Nope.
  11. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

    Jun 9, 2020
    Are you related to 22JM?
  12. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Usyk ofc is able to feint but looks that in CW division his main advantage was better jabbing skills, more all from this: better or at least a bit better agility and speed than his opponents then did had.
    Usyk had excellent legwork and his dynamic high guard was complicated mechanism associated with whole bodywork starting from his feet.
    He really had elite level exp before he had turned into " semi pro " not alone pro.

    Usyk might feint but I think he doesn't set so deep traps like Briedis or maybe Mchunu etc boxers.
    False telegraphs he was able to do with a glance when he was elite am for sure.

    I think Usyk's style does not age well. While God knows, I think he will be more mobile than Parker vs A.J and considerably more mobile.
    Still over the hill I think.
  13. BoxerToxer

    BoxerToxer Member banned Full Member

    Mar 1, 2021
    It takes just a 3-hit heavyweight combo to suppress all that cruiserweight feint.
  14. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    It takes just a bit brains for all lads interesting in career as a pro boxer: If you are not large bloke HW, then please pick another career cos you will be underpaid and better is to pick another road in life.
    Customers are obsessed with HW boxers and if someone is not large HW, better not to be a pro boxer.

    Cos noobs are paying for this entertainment and pro boxing is entertainment industry.
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 4, 2017
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