Anthony Joshua vs Oleksander Usyk - Discussion thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Jul 21, 2021.

Joshua vs Usyk

Poll closed Sep 24, 2021.
  1. Anthony Joshua - KO/TKO

    52 vote(s)
    32.7%
  2. Anthony Joshua - Decision.

    42 vote(s)
    26.4%
  3. Draw

    4 vote(s)
    2.5%
  4. Oleskander Usyk - KO/TKO

    34 vote(s)
    21.4%
  5. Oleksander Usyk - Decision

    27 vote(s)
    17.0%
  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk by KO/TKO is 7/1....
    By decision is 4/1

    Which one fellas?
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is not winning a decision in Britain so the answer is obvious.
     
  3. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You never know.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do know. This fight has Joshua by decision written all over it.
     
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua is going to need a knockdown or KO in this fight for some people to accept him as the victor I think.
     
  6. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ points

    Its the safest bet

    I know AJ can make enough rounds close enough, with the judges all on his side, to get the decision win

    This fight has the hallmarks of one of those fights where the opponent will need to win 8 rounds clearly and get two knockdowns to get a draw. I think that is beyond Usyk

    Some kinds of 115-113 or 116-112 decision loss awaits for Usyk, and as AJ won there wont be a rematch
     
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  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Meh, it wont matter in the eyes of true boxing fans. The winner is the won who actually won the fight, not necessarily the one that got the decision.

    If Usyk gets robbed, true boxing fans will know it. Hopefully the belts will start to lose their meaning soon enough.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe will be cos no one knows what will happen vs Fury vs Wilder and maybe they too again does have next clause:D:p.

    If fight will be sold out pretty well and A.J will be in good shape after this, I might see that they with Eddie will offer again to fight.
    Why not?

    Trust on Fury or Wilder? Dear God.
    Fury already had proved that he does not have long term discipline.
    Wilder? God knows what he will do if he will win rematch vs Fury.
    We do not know maybe they does have next CLAUSE, will not be wonder.

    So, if sales will be good, I think Eddie will not wait on these Fury and Wilder and might offer Usyk to fight vs AJ again.

    It is boring till death listen xx months trash talk, mind games with 0 content delivered.
    Mass media does have pro boxing as SMALL, get guys , very small niche for their income!
    Media needs content to sell not noise in yt or forums.
    FIGHTS.
    Otherwise, without boxing media will not suffer like ppl imagine, maybe even will get more real income.
     
  9. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it's a bit silly that some point believe that AJ couldn't LEGITAMTELY out point Usyk.

    Usyk has never fought someone with that much of a physical advantage over him.

    Is it not feasible that Joshua's reach is just too much of an unfamiliar factor for Usyk to deal with?
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he won't. The judges might already have premade scorecards (lol) Usyk has a higher boxing iq and is a level or 2 above Joshua pfp but size matters to an extent. Joshua won't go looking for the KO and will utilize his physical advantages while playing chess like he did against Povetkin so Usyk will need to close that gap and take risks to thoroughly outbox him and that plays into Joshua's hands

    Besides, unless Joshua gets KO'd, knocked down several times, or completely outboxed in a 12 round non competitive shutout, he's automatically the winner if it goes the distance anyway because of the biased judges. It's Joshua by decision written all over it
     
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  11. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    I rate Usyk far,far higher than I rate Joshua

    But i think Usyk will get stopped mid/late rounds

    Joshua isnt as talented as usyk but without going into mad detail and talking all sorts of arm chair forum talk i think usyk gonna box very very well as usual but joshua gets to him in the end,and i dont even particularly rate joshua,thats just how i see it
     
  12. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I suppose we'll have to just wait and see. At the end of the day I don't often care what the judges say, unless the fight could easily be interpreted many different ways.

    I loved Povetkin, but I had him losing vs Hunter 7-5. I considered Hunter the winner of that fight. If Usyk wins the fight, then the fans will hopefully recognise, regardless of what the judges say.

    Just like Fury was considered the winner vs Wilder by 95% of people, despite being robbed on the cards.

    Have faith in the fans judgment.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally don't think a robbery will happen (it could though) if you've seen my posts, I've been saying since may that Joshua takes a decision. It will be competitive no doubt but Joshua will take the early rounds behind a jab because of Usyk's usual slow start, he'll keep the fight long, make Usyk come to him as the fight progresses and find openings to land a right straight or a counter when Usyk comes in. Usyk may be a better boxer than Povetkin but Povetkin posses far more devastating power that made Joshua fight very defensively. At some point he'll catch Usyk with something big but it wont be enough to KO him and unlike Povetkin, Usyk's won't stand directly infront of Joshua when he's hurt and survival instinct will seem him through that round.

    I just see it being a dangerous game of chess, going to the cards and Joshua winning a decision. Always seen it that way.
     
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  14. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Understandable.

    I just worry Usyk will not be able to evade effectively with all extra weight, and can only think that he's sacrificing speed for power to go for the KO, whilst Joshua is sacrificing weight for speed and stamina.

    Usyk's extra weight either means he's looking to hit harder or expects to be hit harder and is looking to take shots rather than hope he evades them.

    This will definitely be the most interesting fight for a long time at HW.
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

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    Usyk KO/TKO is 10/1 here.