Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Jul 21, 2021.
Usyk by KO/TKO is 7/1....
By decision is 4/1
Which one fellas?
Usyk is not winning a decision in Britain so the answer is obvious.
You never know.
I do know. This fight has Joshua by decision written all over it.
Joshua is going to need a knockdown or KO in this fight for some people to accept him as the victor I think.
Its the safest bet
I know AJ can make enough rounds close enough, with the judges all on his side, to get the decision win
This fight has the hallmarks of one of those fights where the opponent will need to win 8 rounds clearly and get two knockdowns to get a draw. I think that is beyond Usyk
Some kinds of 115-113 or 116-112 decision loss awaits for Usyk, and as AJ won there wont be a rematch
Meh, it wont matter in the eyes of true boxing fans. The winner is the won who actually won the fight, not necessarily the one that got the decision.
If Usyk gets robbed, true boxing fans will know it. Hopefully the belts will start to lose their meaning soon enough.
Maybe will be cos no one knows what will happen vs Fury vs Wilder and maybe they too again does have next clause.
If fight will be sold out pretty well and A.J will be in good shape after this, I might see that they with Eddie will offer again to fight.
Trust on Fury or Wilder? Dear God.
Fury already had proved that he does not have long term discipline.
Wilder? God knows what he will do if he will win rematch vs Fury.
We do not know maybe they does have next CLAUSE, will not be wonder.
So, if sales will be good, I think Eddie will not wait on these Fury and Wilder and might offer Usyk to fight vs AJ again.
It is boring till death listen xx months trash talk, mind games with 0 content delivered.
Mass media does have pro boxing as SMALL, get guys , very small niche for their income!
Media needs content to sell not noise in yt or forums.
Otherwise, without boxing media will not suffer like ppl imagine, maybe even will get more real income.
I think it's a bit silly that some point believe that AJ couldn't LEGITAMTELY out point Usyk.
Usyk has never fought someone with that much of a physical advantage over him.
Is it not feasible that Joshua's reach is just too much of an unfamiliar factor for Usyk to deal with?
No he won't. The judges might already have premade scorecards (lol) Usyk has a higher boxing iq and is a level or 2 above Joshua pfp but size matters to an extent. Joshua won't go looking for the KO and will utilize his physical advantages while playing chess like he did against Povetkin so Usyk will need to close that gap and take risks to thoroughly outbox him and that plays into Joshua's hands
Besides, unless Joshua gets KO'd, knocked down several times, or completely outboxed in a 12 round non competitive shutout, he's automatically the winner if it goes the distance anyway because of the biased judges. It's Joshua by decision written all over it
I rate Usyk far,far higher than I rate Joshua
But i think Usyk will get stopped mid/late rounds
Joshua isnt as talented as usyk but without going into mad detail and talking all sorts of arm chair forum talk i think usyk gonna box very very well as usual but joshua gets to him in the end,and i dont even particularly rate joshua,thats just how i see it
I suppose we'll have to just wait and see. At the end of the day I don't often care what the judges say, unless the fight could easily be interpreted many different ways.
I loved Povetkin, but I had him losing vs Hunter 7-5. I considered Hunter the winner of that fight. If Usyk wins the fight, then the fans will hopefully recognise, regardless of what the judges say.
Just like Fury was considered the winner vs Wilder by 95% of people, despite being robbed on the cards.
Have faith in the fans judgment.
I personally don't think a robbery will happen (it could though) if you've seen my posts, I've been saying since may that Joshua takes a decision. It will be competitive no doubt but Joshua will take the early rounds behind a jab because of Usyk's usual slow start, he'll keep the fight long, make Usyk come to him as the fight progresses and find openings to land a right straight or a counter when Usyk comes in. Usyk may be a better boxer than Povetkin but Povetkin posses far more devastating power that made Joshua fight very defensively. At some point he'll catch Usyk with something big but it wont be enough to KO him and unlike Povetkin, Usyk's won't stand directly infront of Joshua when he's hurt and survival instinct will seem him through that round.
I just see it being a dangerous game of chess, going to the cards and Joshua winning a decision. Always seen it that way.
I just worry Usyk will not be able to evade effectively with all extra weight, and can only think that he's sacrificing speed for power to go for the KO, whilst Joshua is sacrificing weight for speed and stamina.
Usyk's extra weight either means he's looking to hit harder or expects to be hit harder and is looking to take shots rather than hope he evades them.
This will definitely be the most interesting fight for a long time at HW.
Usyk KO/TKO is 10/1 here.