Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk.

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  1. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk by the same token has only beaten #4 ranked Glowacki. He's about to fight #6 Briedis and will potentially face either #2 Gassiev or #7 Dorticos.
     
  2. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ha Ha
    Which valid Top 10s are there that can be referenced other than the World sanctioning bodies?

    I’ll ask again, put your top 10 up then

    Your an empty can at the moment fella, all criticism but no ideas!
     
  3. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    But that proves my main point, Whyte, Takam and Breazeale haven't beaten a ranked opponent themselves and are only "ranked" because the division is poor.

    The gap between the top 5 and bottom 5 is vast.
     
  4. Papillon

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    My top 10 would be credible than any alphabet rankings.

    What are these ideas I'm meant to be aware of?

    If you honestly think that Breazeale and Whyte are world level material than that's on you Breazeale is getting there but Whyte is mediocre at best.
     
  5. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    Huck?
     
  6. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Huck was #6 end of 2016 and dropped from the top ten after his loss to Briedis iirc.
     
  7. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Same goes for most of the cruiserweight top ten...
     
  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your top 10 list? Oh boy I'd LOVE to see that? :risas3:

    Hopefully you will be foolish enough to post it.........
     
  9. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whyte is pretty ****.
     
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  10. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    TBH in the development of the thread I've actually gotten away from my initial point which was in regards to @GALVATRON claiming Usyk has only fought limited opposition as opposed to Joshua which simply is not true.

    On reflection....as it stands their respective resumes are quite similar, but an Usyk tournament win imo takes him above Joshua.

    Also again, imo, Usyk is the better skilled boxer who does have an excellent chance to beat Joshua if he can work with the added weight he will have to put on.

    The heavyweight division is weak atm, again I have said numerous times that this is not AJ'S fault.

    Again remember this is a poster who thinks Trey Morrison will go further in boxing than Usyk.......just take that in and savour it for a couple of seconds.
     
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  11. Papillon

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    What's that Dinovelvet/GALVACUCK?
     
  12. Papillon

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    1. AJ
    2. Povetkin
    3. Wilder
    4. Ortiz
    5. Parker
    6. Pulev
    7. Miller
    8. Bellew
    9. Kownacki
    10. Breazeale

    I think that's a fair assessment.
     
  13. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    How is this a fair assessment..Joshua avoided everyone hasn't fought top guy remember?

    Everything you posted is contradicted based on your list, you proved yourself wrong otherwise you would've listed others on here that he avoided? You have yet to explain who these top guys are BC they certainly aren't on your list.

    How is Kownacki remotely top 10?

    How does Bellew on one HW fight make it?

    Povetkin is also questionable at number 2.

    Miller ? He hasn't even had a lot of fights in the ring with meaningful opposition yet? Washington is his best win coming off a loss to Wilder.

    I've seen worse lists but including Bellew and Kownacki tells me you really aren't following logical criteria or you are purposely avoiding guys who Joshua already beat besides Breazeale ?

    Whyte is better than Breazeale, you got that wrong too so you didn't add him?

    If Usyk defeated Dave Allen you would probably be drooling :babeando: and already have him at number 2 based on nothing considering you actually think he will beat Joshua now based on no pro HW fights and only 13 cruiserweight fights in 6 years? Yet question my judgements of boxing ? ..lol

    BC someone proved you wrong with showing you 4 guys ranked in top that Joshua defeated is the only reason I can think of anyone adding Kownacki or Bellew ? Huh.... Lol
     
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  14. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    LOL

    Ok then who exactly has Whyte beaten?
     
  15. Papillon

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    How is Povetkin questionable at number 2?

    Not only does he have the best resume at heavyweight, he is also a consistent winner....who DO YOU THINK IS number 2?

    Also YOU saying that YOU have proven me wrong has no validation at all, you throw Whyte around like he's some premier fighter when he's borderline EUROPEAN LEVEL AT BEST.....who has he beaten?

    Struggled with old Chisora in a fight he arguably lost....he was awful against Allen (obviously this win had you drooling) and he was awful again against Helenius (a guy who Duhaupas clocked in 6) and he went 10 rounds with Lewison (who Joyce beat in quicker time on his debut LOL).

    Your fanatical support of Joshua and hatred of Usyk has blinded your postings from the start.

    Off your logic, although Bellew has the Haye win, Kownacki dealt with Szpilka easier than Wilder, Miller has stopped Washington and Wach.....these fighters don't warrant being above Whyte because YOU claim Whyte is better.....ok I'll roll with that so should Joyce and Duhaupas and even Kabayel (who "beat" Chisora more clearly than Whyte) be top 10 ranked and above Whyte himself?

    The top 10 rankings prove my initial point right from the start.....after the top 5/6 there is a clear drop off in talent....the void is very clear.