Anthony Joshua vs Oliver Mccall

Interesting match up.

I would take AJ but he would have to be careful and prepare to win a UD incase he punched himself out on the atomic bulls chin.

 

I'd imagine it would be similar to the takam fight, but with mccall's chin, he'd stay upright. I think he also has better power than takam, so he dishes out more damage. Mccall also has slightly better movement than Joshua, so it would be interesting to see what approach joshua would take to the fight. Probably would be a back and forth affair, but with mccall's chin and better feet, I give this a win to mccall, late stoppage.

 

Joshua gasses and gets stopped after detonating nukes on McCall's chin without any effect.

 

Mccall obviously.

Because fighters are significantly getting worse over time somehow.....

Even though science completely disagrees.

 

Prime McCall would get it done I think. Those mid to late rounds would be hell for Joshua once he delivers his biggest bombs and McCall is still there. Joshua loses heart, blows wind, gets knocked out late, maybe 10th.

 

McCall only beat a complacent Lewis because he had Steward in his corner who had already noticed a flaw in the way Lewis loaded up with the right hand and even then needed a questionable decision from the ref to stop the fight.

Joshua doesn't load up massively with the right hand, though he isn't as good as any version of Lewis. I think Joshua would win a decision. McCall would be dangerous of course with that right hand but it wouldn't be enough.

 

Effing awesome post. That sums it up perfectly.

 

AJ, who might just give McCall his first official knock down. McCall had one of the greatest chins of all time, but even it has been subject to a little bit of exaggeration. He got an uncredited kd against Akinwande toward the end of I believe the third round that everyone forgets about. He also never faced a hw like AJ before, who is a level above him and has epic power. That's not to say AJ's better than Lewis, just different. And McCall never faced another hw at or near the level of Lewis, which AJ is at least closer to than any other McCall opponent. So, there is a good chance AJ could crack that chin.

Hey, team Parker likes to brag they have never seen the canvass in sparring or actual matches. Let's see whether AJ gets a kd there, and this becomes a more likely proposition.

 

This. McCall is better than anyone on Joshua's resume. Bruno managed to beat McCall, but Bruno has a better jab and clinch game than Joshua.
Joshua hasn't fought anyone with McCall's durability and McCall punches harder than everyone on Joshua's resume with the exception of Wlad, but McCall won't gas.

 

Anybody favouring McCall here is taking their dislike of AJ and his superior physique too far. Maaaaaybe the sparring partner can nab a round or two en route to a landslide drubbing but Joshua wins 19/20 and there would even be a few stoppages in that hypothetical run of 20.

 

41 year old Klitschko is a level above any version of McCall.

 

Are we talking a McCaLL in his prime, or today's version?

Prime? Atomic Bull all the way. No point in discussing today's version.

 

Thanks for the highly detailed, non-douchebag post in the thread!!

 

I wrote quite a lot, I don't want you to feel like a little comment like that set me off raging though, there's a lot because there are so many angles this can be approached. It's perfectly reasonable for you to feel the way you do.

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Says who exactly? Just because people in boxing say science doesn't make it science. The study of the physics of the human body is called kinesiology. You go ahead in yer free time give that a gander or two. You'll find most of what boxing claims is science is not agreed with by the actual scientific field of study that relates.

Progression in boxing is not cosigned by kinesiology, anatomy, biomechanics, or even evolution or history.

Any historian worth their salt will tell you fighting is cyclical not progressively linear and the number one factor in how fighters fight is what is marketable during their time not factors like medicine.

People tell me about improvements to medical science and how that makes humans more healthy....true...we have giants now and in 1702 giants were kind of hard to keep alive. We've tiny folk now too and they also had a short life expectancy. What we don't have are muscles that put out more energy than before. All we gained from medical science is the likeliness that a man like Wlad would grow to be a grown ass man and live a normal life. He's not in anyway superior to ye old giants he just lives in a superior world more set up to handle his particular medical and nutritional needs.

Trust your eyes bud, they are not lying to you. Boxing is and has been in decline. I can prove this scientifically or historically. I'm an inventor in prosthetics featured on multiple documentaries and in my free time I bust historical narrative apart to show the old guard what they've missed. If you want this in physics I can explain, if you want it in historical narrative I can explain. If you need a refresher on boxing theory vs what we see today I will explain. If you've any issue with boxing not being progressive I can and would be happy to explain.


You're probably done with me guessing issues you'd have with my claim, and I already said I'd address anything that might cause you pause so I'll leave this page where it is before I turn it into a full novella, but let me repeat your instincts are more correct than the babble often repeated without challenge.