Anthony Joshua vs Sonny Liston

Eddie also got blasted in a round by Ingemar Johansson.

 

That doesn’t even matter since he would also be too small to beat AJ’s best opponents

 

Sonny seems to have gained almost mythical status on these pages over the last 6 months or so.

 

Liston had police break night sticks over his head and it didn’t do much. Not sure Joshua, who is definitely the chinnier of the two, wants to mix it up inside.

If Joshua learns his lesson from Ruiz jr and stays at range fighting on the outside, Liston has a two inch reach advantage and telephone pole of a jab. Liston also had great timing with it. The same Jab a young George Foreman said was the hardest jab he’d ever been hit with and was enough on its own to back him up.

It’s not entirely unreasonable to think this would be tough for Joshua.

 

i just think that Joshua had the power to knock him out. Doesn’t mean he should be favored

 

Yeah I heard that too.

 

Cleveland Williams also had the power to knock him out. Didn't do him much good when it mattered though.

 

Welcome to Classic

 

At the beginning and at the end of the day , Joshua is a ture fighter who dedicates every fibre of his being to his craft.

He's only one in 4 HWs in the history of the division to regain his titles in an immediate rematch. A rematch people thought he would lose a second time and one that took guts and courage to take.

Your underwear hero/model hadn't the gonads or mustard to get back in the ring with a shot left over of the previous era , instead he ran away in gibbering fear of said semi-retired old man , knowing his big brother would step- in and save him

 

I agree with the premise of what you’re saying. But do you not think that Anthony Joshua presents more of a threat than Williams did? Joshua is 6’6” and when in shape is 245 lbs of muscle. I would also wager that he hits harder than Williams and like Cleveland hasn’t been beaten by mediocre fighters. I can see why Liston might be favored. He had an extraordinary long reach for a man of only 6’1”.. he had an outstanding left jab and right cross with lots of power behind them both. He was an ATG who cleared out some of the most talented fighters of the late fifties and early sixties. Favoring him to beat Joshua is fine. But comparing Joshua to Williams or saying that Joshua has no chance is not something I’m entirely on board with.

 

Fat, slovenly Andy Ruiz made Joshua his beeyatch, full tilt and emphatically, beat him so thoroughly, mastered him so conclusively, that Joshua watched his belt walk away as he cowered dumbfounded in his corner. The best he could do in a return is operate under toothless orders and make it a jazzercize class. Joshua is great at exercising. It's the fighting part that is missing.

 

Well it wasn’t missing in literally all of his other fights, where a good amount of those were world title bouts

 

I remember Sonny Liston saying on television when questioned about his broken jaw at the hands of Marty Marshall in 1954, his reply was that he had his mouth open because he was laughing at Marshall, then got hit. But Sonny fought with a broken jaw.

 

I have to go with Charles Sonny Liston over Anthony Joshua, I am talking about a prime Liston from 1958- 1962, not the Sonny that came with Noah, when he was felled by the Anchor Punch thrown by Muhammad Ali on May 25 1965, or knocked out by Leotis Martin in Dec 1969. Agreed that Anthony has the size on the Big Ugly Bear, because back then people did not eat organic food or consume other substances to grow as tall as Jack In The Bean Stalk. I believe that Joshua may have had some difficulty connecting on Liston because of his 84 inch reach, but if Anthony gets tagged with Sonny's 14 inch fist, it could be over. It would resemble a chess match early on, then Liston would connect with his famed left hook on the suspected jaw of Joshua's, spelling the end in round 7, If Snicker man Andy Ruiz could do the trick, so could a well conditioned Sonny Liston, who by the way did beat up heavyweights, not like the soon to be diabetic, heart compromised fatty's of today that Anthony has fought. Anthony is terrified of WBC World Heavyweight Champion Tyson Fury

 

I don't think Joshua hit harder than Williams though I agree that he does present more of a threat. I also wouldn't say Williams lost to mediocre fighters considering all his losses to less than stellar opposition occured after he'd been shot. The only person who decisively beat him remotely close to his prime was a peak Sonny Liston who had to walk through some serious leather, and battle through a broken nose to do so. You can't say the same about Joshua who in his prime lost to Ruiz, a morbidly obese fighter, who wasn't even ranked and had just been taken the distance 2 fights prior by a near 40 year old journeyman (who was 3-7 out of his last 10 fights including 2 KO losses).