Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko (from Tyson Fury fight)

Even Pulev fight he looked sloppy.

 

Wlad’s biggest issue in the Joshua fight was his 15 months of inactivity. Was too much to overcome for an already aging fighter.

 

I want to see Tyson Fury from Wilder 2 Vs Wlad in 2015

He'd brutalize him

 

There a huge difference in skill level between Wilder and Wlad. Wilder has none.

 

Harsh on Wilder. More to him than meets the eye.

 

He’s a Glass Jawed one trick pony with an abysmal resume because his handlers knew what they had and couldn’t/wouldn’t risk putting him in there with someone like a Wlad Klitschko because if they did his career would have been over just like it’s over now after fighting Fury and losing every single round but four in three fights.

 

Who's chin is worse Wilder or AJ

 

Wilders chin is far worse. Wilder does have more fight in him than AH though

 

These guys are haters who can't accept that they've been proven wrong. They predicted that Wilder would get KO'd by Stiverne, then later Ortiz. After Wilder beat them these fighters were dismissed as being rubbish, just as Chisora was a British level journeyman bum because he couldn't lay a glove on Fury. Even one of Wilder's weakest defences in Breazeale was favoured by a good portion of them, if not to KO Wilder then to take his power and outbox him for most of the rounds. Check out some of the old threads:

[url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/stiverne-vs-price.524961/[/url]

[url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/ortiz-vs-wilder.599240/[/url]

[url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/deontay-wilder-vs-dominic-breazeale-who-you-got.626250/[/url]

 

Well, I don't think the age is the only factor.

As people say, the inactivity is also a big factor. Fighters say this all the time.

The loss of confidence is huge as Wlad was coming off a loss instead of going in undefeated for a decade.

The loss also changed Wlad's style a bit, he was probably more aggressive than he had to be trying to prove he could ''let his hands go'' after Fury. A more defensive Wlad maybe avoids getting put down early and beaten up late. A more cautious Wlad could still land the bomb because AJ is not Fury.

The location is also important. That Wlad was undefeated for a decade, so Joshua would likely have to fight him in Germany. There AJ doesn't have the support and this would make a difference mentally. Wlad also would get a boost being there.

I think Wlad wins by UD or late KO by getting AJ's attention with his power and staying much safer, not needing to prove anything in some last stand type fight.

But I accept AJ could still land and finish Wlad perhaps, It's still a possibility. They wouldn't stop the fight so early in Germany though. Wlad was still on his feet and AJ was probably about to gas again.

 

Wilder.

 

Ortiz
Stiverne
Washington
Arreola
Szpillka
Duhaupas
Molina

I would say Ortiz would have beaten breazeale back then but the rest I’m not sure.
Don’t know how you can claim breazeale is one of his weaker defences really.

 

Breazeale had a highly competitive fight with a Molina who had gone through the ringer against Wilder, Adamek and Joshua, virtually neck and neck on the cards going into the 8th. The same is true of Negron. Mansour and Ugonoh both outlanded Breazeale and had him badly hurt, put him on the floor. He got a highly controversial decision against Kassi, as did the notoriously hot and cold Arreola around the same time.

Breazeale was an easy defence because he was slower than the others (except Stiverne 2) and more defensively open, though he was big, tough, determined and heavy handed. The Molina who fought Wilder very likely does better or wins, though it's perfectly possible that he gets ground down by Breazeale's pressure. Duhaupas was tougher and more skilled, Szpilka was too fast, agile and a slick southpaw (though he could get caught by a big shot) if Arreola came to win (as he did later on against Kownacki and Ruiz) he'd take Breazeale's punishment and outwork him, Washington would probably be too skilled but Breazeale could possibly grind him down late, Stiverne 1 would be too skilled, tough and powerful, Stiverne 2 is a toss up: he came in even worse shape against Joyce but still landed his fair share of bombs and soaked up a lot of punishment before being stopped in 6.

 

not really when you consider the other guys you mention are all scrubs and wlad was well past it. Fury's best skill to date has been ducking challenges. his resume is pathetic.

 

Wlad v Fury and Wlad was a dominant battle ready Champion,Wlad v Joshua and Wlad was an inactive retired ex Champion who had been out the game nearly 18 month since the Fury loss. No way would an on point Wlad let Joshua off the hook like he did . Then of course there was also the hard drive sewn into Wlads robe which was going to be auctioned off saying how he would beat Joshua. Anybody ever seen it and what the prediction was ? Was Wlad going for the points win ?