Anthony Joshua would CRUSH Lennox Lewis

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's possible, certainly not as laughable as some posters act. We'll know alot more in a couple years. If he's still undefeated, and has largely cleared out the division, then I'd say he probably would have stopped prime Lewis.

    On raw visuals AJ has height, weight, and strength advantages, along with aggression. Lewis could volume punch better, had better stamina, might have more single punch ko power(but that's debatable), and prime Lewis had better fundamentals like head movement (but AJ can improve there). But they appear largely equal in reflexes and punch variety and most other features. I'd say AJ appears to have the potential to be greater h2h, but it's too early to tell with any confidence.
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    ATG isnt a skill...give me a fight that shows Lewis is such a huge favorite?...thats what the actual thread is about isnt it,not olympic B.S or who fought longer?

    If this is such a huge mismatch why was lewis nealry knocked down by a agressive Grant and nearly knocked down in rnd one vs Briggs among others and some that completely tKO'd him that had half of Joshuas abilities?Why did he have to switch trainers multiple times the first because in his 19th fight he was unable to k.o an under sized journyman and out of frustration looked else where for someone to train him?

    The hard truth for you guys is Joshua would steam roll all of the opponets that made Lewis work for a win.
     
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  3. Howitzer1888

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    Whilst I agree with some of what you have said, but even if he has cleared out the division in a couple of years, there's nobody in the division that would give us much of an idea as to whether Joshua could beat Lewis or not, it simply isn't a very strong division atm.

    Secondly, whilst Anthony is about an inch taller, he has an 82 inch reach compared to 84 for Lewis, so that is balanced out.

    At his best, Lewis often weighed between 245-250, sometimes a little below 245. Joshua has weighed similar if not a little more than that. Would it be much of an advantage? I don't think so. Not only that, but Lewis was a naturally big man, with a large frame. Joshua on the other hand has a relatively slim frame, and has considerably more muscle. I actually think Joshua would do better if he lose some of that weight. Either way, the (small) weight difference wouldn't have much of an effect.

    As well as this, how can you be sure that Joshua is stronger? I'm not having a go at you here, but Lewis was always considered very physically strong, even for his size. Anthony is clearly very strong as well but I would suggest that they are similar in terms of physical strength.

    Overall, I don't think Joshua at his best will be quite as good as Lewis, but I do think he'll get close to it, though.

    I do agree with the rest of the stuff you said though, and yeah I think we won't know whether Joshua will be as good as Lewis until he reaches his absolute best.
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    No way in hell, Joshua still hasnt proven he can beat an ATG, especially one his own size with a deep resume like Lewis.

    Other than manufactured glass jawed Martin, Whyte, and a 40 year old klitschko (who he got off the floor to beat and nearly lost to), joshuas resume is pretty thin. He hasnt gone the distance, lacks stamina, defense, head movement, and combinations.

    Power and height are not enough to beat Lewis. Vitali was taller than Joshua with good power, granite chin, and he still got stopped by a flabby 37 year old wheezing Lewis. If current Joshua fought a prime Lewis he would just be another Shannon Briggs or Frank Bruno on Lewis' resume. Just another big strong heavy lacking defense, stamina, ring iq, etc. Lewis feasts on those guys. At best, Joshua goes the distance, rocking Lewis with a few decent shots, or gets stopped late due to Lewis refusing to pull the trigger and being cautious or lazy. Take the pissed off aggressive Lewis of the Rahman rematch or golota fight and he decapitates 90% of the fighters in history. No way in hell does Joshua last more than 7 rounds against an in shape, motivated and focused Lewis at his peak under Stewart. It is simply not happening.

    Who knows about the future. If Joshua beats ortiz, wilder, and parker convincingly that could definitely shift the conversation the the other way around.
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    The kid is no other than Daniel Dubios, future heavyweight champion.

    He slapped Joshua around inside his own gym, before flattening him unto the canvas as if he was nothing more than dog meat.
     
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  6. chacal

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    I dont think so.
     
  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    "Lewis is an ATG who matches up well with anyone in the history of the sport H2H."

    What does this have to do with Joshua who not only is a more explosive puncher but can fight on the inside better than Lewis himself? Are you suggesting that bc Joshua is new,he doesnt match up well with mosrt like Lewis?Sorry but that is false.

    You keep reiterating about nothing to do with nothing about what i said and on the actual thread topic...your points are pointless to the actiual subject here bc you think ATG is a skill and a badge of ranking over someone...im done here...im reposting the same post you posted bc it seems everyone is confused on here that somehow ATG is a SKILL...where the hell did that come from...oh yea those nostalgists....SMH......see ya'!
     
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  8. andrewa1

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    Personally I rank size advantage 1. Weight(natural) 2. Height. 3 Reach(distant third, partly but not mainly because reach is measured in weird ways). Personally, I think AJ appears to be over an inch in height an 15 pounds naturally bigger than Lewis. And I think you're selling the current division short. Lewis is one of my all time fav and is (tied) for my h2h #1 all time right now (over AJ, until he proves more), so I don't have a problem with someone saying they think AJ will come in right behind Lewis. Anyway, seems like we agree on more than we disagree on. I'm sure we can agree it will be fun to watch how his career goes!
     
  9. Lith

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    Lewis had an epic fight with Vitali Klitschko when Vitali WASN'T 40, and who at that age and his more aggressive style it could be pretty easily argued that he'd be at least as dangerous as an Anthony Joshua who when life or death with a 40yo Wlad.

    There is no way AJ is crushing that same guy, would be an interesting fight but I can't see any crushing happening
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Doubt if Joshua could beat Lewis............
     
  11. Howitzer1888

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    Yes, that is absolutely fine. We have a few years of exciting fights from Joshua ahead of us, I look forward to them.
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    What does Lewis being an ATG have to do with matching up in a fantasy bout? Are you for real? Why do you think he's considering an ATG? Because he has proven skills at the top level for a considerable period of time against top level opposition.

    Actually... Until you sort out your last post I'm not interested in talking with you further. It's that stupid.
     
  13. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    were you there?
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I needn't have been

    I trust the accounts of those who were as they witnessed first hand the vicious beating he delivered to Joshua.

    It sounds as if you do not wish to believe that this happened.
     
  15. BoxingABC1

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    it doesn't sound like that, you just want it to sound like that. i asked coz you seem absolutely sure and all i've ever heard were rumours. Who confirmed it?