Anthony Joshua's body just screams roids

Neither Joshua's nor Wlad's physiques are attainable naturally. Wlad's an even more blatant user than Joshua considering his age and those ridiculous hosepipe veins he's got in recent years, along with all the dry, rock hard muscle he's packed onto his frame. He never looked remotely like this in his youth.

People make the mistake of thinking that if you work out like a maniac, pay scrupulous attention to your diet and have great genetic potential for growth then you don't need to touch a PED, when the fact is that world class athletes with the mentality to excel in all fields aren't going to draw the line at illegal drugs if they can push them beyond the boundaries achievable naturally. And they're going to make damn sure they never get caught.

 

The one thing that bothers me about Joshua, is that big bloated HGH stomach that's pertruding out from the waist. And those veins popping all over the place. Did you see how angry he looked at the Miller presser. All the symptoms of roid rage. Why can't he look lean muscular like Wilder?

 

how many world class athletes do you know personally to draw a conclusion like that mate? Are you saying that any top level sportsmen competing in a drug tested sport mysteriously loses their ethics once they reach the top?

 

Yes, essentially. I've seen too many examples of it happening to give anyone the benefit of the doubt anymore.

It's not just once they reach the top either. They're just better able to protect themselves once they have the money and the connections to do so. I'm sorry if that sounds cynical, and if it's any consolation I don't try to demonise anyone for this in particular, since I'm coming to see that this is just the way things are in any major sport.

 

I think people exaggerate with Joshua like he's some monstrous distorted ball of muscles. He looks like he spends a lot of time training, he looks normal. He's not even that big.

Not that i'm bothered either way, i couldn't care less if he was using or not.

 

Ethics has less of a place in boxing than any other sport unfortunately. This is a sport where we want to knock people out in the most brutal fashion possible (without handicapping or killing them), though reality is the brain damage will never go away after taking brutal hits.

You should see what happens during gym wars when another gym visits the gym. Bonus points the worse you hurt their fighters.

The stakes are too high in this sport to not take any advantage you can get. A natural pro I know met a bad end when he fought an obviously roided up dude. Those who don't use won't reach the top level, and if they actually do they won't remain there for long.

 

A "ripped" or "veiny" look doesn't require PEDs. That's absolute nonsense.

 

Depends on the level of vascularity, in conjunction with other things.

 

It's touching that people still think things like ethics and fairplay have a role in sports (if they ever did), especially in boxing, one of the dirtiest, most corrupt and dog eat dog sports on the planet where huge sums of money are up for grabs for those at the very top. And apparently we're the clueless ones.

 

There's plenty, Reg Park is usually the go to person people use... but i'm not sure sure that prior to 1950 means no steroids.

 

Park competed mainly in the 50s and 60s when things like dianabol were commonly available. Reeves is a slightly better example, but even then you're on somewhat shaky ground.

 

What about Primo Carnera, was he also on PEDs? Incidentally, he was exactly the same height as are both AJ and Wlad.

 

No, obviously not. But he doesn't look as ripped as either of them.

What's his height got to do with anything?

 

I brought it up as some in the thread argued that "lanky, tall guys can't build up massive, muscular physiques while doing intense exercise regimes such as boxing" which of course is a bunch of baloney.

 

I don't see a difference between Primo Carnera and Wlad Klitschko

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