Anthony Joshua's body just screams roids

Carnera wasn't lanky though. He had a huge frame and dense bone structure like a lot of guys with pituitary gigantism.

He was massive and muscular but he wasn't particularly cut. That's what sends alarm bells ringing in my mind: not the level of mass but the dryness.

Well you wouldn't if one of the pics was a guy relaxing at the beach.

Try one of Wlad at a weigh in or during the run up to a big fight.

 

Who are you Judge Rinder?
It's not slander he is stating a fact, AJ is as natural as Dolly Partons tits !
He isn't the only athlete that is juicing it's just he does a lot of bodybuilding and it's more noticeable, Sport is a business and it's as fake as the UK parliament but you always get idiots who believe it's all real .

 

Err, you really should reconsider using the name "Evander" when talking about PEDs..

 

Find me a Carnera pic with a closeup of his arm veins post-fight.

 

What does height have to do with skin colour? my son has just turned 18 and is 6ft 4 and he is white , anyway AJ is no Masai warrior he is from Watford England. You have been reading too many Nazi scientist books.

 

Did you even read the thread, Mr. Evan Fields?

 

Why?

 

Because that's what this is all about. Vascularity and veins. Which makes me cringe.

 

Don't be stupid,
Naive mugs,
Every boxer,
Is on drugs,

Every poster,
Takes them too,
Yes you Muppets,
That means you,

The shite that spews,
From out your heads,
Must mean that you are,
All on Peds,

That's the reason,
I've suggested,
All you nutters,
Are drug tested,

 

Evander may have used some Joe Weiders Anabolic packs but he was a superior boxer compared to big stiff Feme.

 

I'd agree with that apart from the 'may' part. He was guilty as sin.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/6y2qva/boxing_legend_evander_holyfield/

 

He did train with Mr Olympia Lee Haney who would have given him all the info and advice on what Steroids to take, i wonder what name AJ goes under when he gets his Anabolic Pack delivered ?
Mr Femie Herman Munster
C/0 Eddie Matchroom Munster
1313 mockingbird lane

 

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I see some good points, but also some are extreme and unreasonable when they pick a side.

It is crazy to insist that all very fit boxers over Two Hundred lbs are on drugs. Especially regardless of height.
It is also insane to assume two ten to two thirty like Ali Foreman used.
The FFMI seems like a good guide. There are other studies like reflected on http://www.weightrainer.net/articles.html
that support similar positions on natural potential: http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

There is OVERLAP between these systems, in the sense that some use PEDS and have less muscle.
Some are right near natural potential, such as Tyson and Joshua.
Especially if endurance is limited and muscle is not gained too rapidly AFTER one already is muscular, we cannot assume they are using.
Even though they may be.

It is also extreme to say that testing can catch everyone.
Some drugs cannot be detected or are new. Others take testosterone or HGH and test at levels within legal range.

Please e SPECIFIC if responding to these points, thank you.

 

That would be quite the feat considering the total lack of mobile devices with cameras back then, and cameras in general were few and far between, paired with Blacks not really being fully integrated into pro sports, outside of Boxing, and the weight training techniques of then being different than what Joshua does now. Far too many variables for you to even have a valid point with this.