Anthony Joshua's boxing style - Simplicity & effective

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Good thing is I think Fury will make his 3rd Wilder bout a bit of a tussle. Points win but not a destruction like last time.

People will give AJ big hopes again but the Fury who shows up will flatten him in 4 rounds max.

 

Thats how i see it playing out. Fury wins a decision but a dominant one because he comes forward, batters Wilder and Wilder refuses to give up

 

There's a big difference there, though - AJ is average or better in most ways, as far as heavyweight boxing goes... Wilder is below average in a good number of ways even at heavy - and despite hitting very hard, he's got less ways to use it effectively.

It's also not unfair to point out that AJ's particular set of strengths and weaknesses is proven to be effective at the top end of the division and he has arguably the best current HW resume to back that up - this can't be said for Wilder.

Yes, AJ isn't a P4P fighter, but heavies very rarely are - it's a very different game in the HW division, power often dominates much more significantly at heavy than in any other division and has done for a long time.

Very true.

But then couldn't we equally say "Foreman down at WW, with no power..." as one example among many?

 

Arguable. We don't know how the increase in size would affect them physically or stylistically overall. Closest thing to a heavyweight Mayweather was James Toney and a heavyweight Lomachenko is somewhat like Usyk. I'd say Lopez somewhat resembles Joshua stylistically except without the basic guard and Lopez is significantly more fluid

 

He's defo trying to be a safety first guy like Wlad and wear down and take out opponents late which is actually wise in his case given his tank and recent punch resistance. I'm not expecting any big fireworks vs Usyk although If he can hurt him like he did Pulev he might open up but he'll also have in mind Usyk is a prime unbeaten fighter. Defining fight anyway. Possible Joshua can shed the image of a clunky and chinny hype job with get out of jail power but that tag remains in place for now and Fury is the pre-eminent hw of the era.

 

Unlikely, it would probably diminish Usyk's reputation at HW far more than it would boost AJ's - it'd simply be put down as "not a natural heavyweight", "past it", etc.

Arguably... Fury needs AJ to cement that beyond question in my view (and I think he'd probably win it), just as AJ would probably need Fury to shrug off a good amount of criticism he gets.

Still, we can only hope it eventually happens...

 

I hate this example along with every gormless vitamin D deficient circus clown who believes that Foreman is a wild brawler. (Not accusing you of this, mind you)

Foreman knew classic boxing techniques and old school tricks and talents which he used to beat Frazier and years later, Moorer. He had underrated skills people overlooked due to his power, but they were there.

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Now you see why

 

Not accusing him of that, just that the threat of his (significant) power was a significant part of who he was as a fighter... And how opponents approached him.

Take away that kind of power and would he have had the same kind of career? Probably not, at least not at heavyweight...

Just an example to point out how facile an argument it is to say "just take away this one thing" as if everything else isn't tied up with it - including what else a fighter works on, style and impact on opponents approach.

 

Not at all. Usyk will be Joshua's best win after WK in my view. Ruiz II could be viewed as a big win but Ruiz was so pathetic that night I cannot rank it any higher than the Parker win.

Fury is the current pre-eminent hw no question. He's there to be knocked off his perch like any champion but Ring and boxrec are 100% correct to have him clear #1

 

Could it be because AJ is actually skilled?