At this moment? Well i was a few hours ago when i was watching this off beat horror movie ,just woke up but im sure i'll get a few chuckles on here pretty soon .
" mcvey says: Jeffries won his title from a 37 years old 167lbs man who had not fought in 2 years. " Wrong. You really suck at this. Fitz was 36, and #1 in the world. "McVey says: Marciano won his from a 37 years old man whom it took 5 tries before he finally won the title, a veteran who had 16 losses on his record, 4 by ko. " You're really stupid Tony. Walcott was 38! If Walcott was so bad, they why did he also give Louis such trouble 2-2 here so far. " Wlad didn't have all the titles until he beat Haye , he then defended it against 39years old Mormeck and 40 years old Thompson.among his other soft touches are nobodies like Wach,Pianeta and Leapai, glorified club fighters. " Since when does having all the titles in a modern sense mean something, it's mostly politics, Wlad won all belts, ducked no man, and beat a dozen men ranked in the top ten. So he fought Wach, and Paineta in 20+ title defenses. Louis, Ali and Holmes fought even worse, and you know it. And Johnson, forget it, hit title defenses were pure jokes in many cases and he had issues. Every tenured champion has an easy title defense or two. Next time you try to hate accomplished white heavies, would it be too much for you to get some facts right and avoid the double standards? That's all I'm asking. Your ignorance might affect those who take your posts at face value and fail to see your agenda. I guess that's partly why I'm here to correct you.
Since when was ranking fighters of the PAST ridiculous and why is it not suitable for the HISTORY section ? If you can answer this REASONABLY i'll take you off my dummy list which thus far has 3 posters , Herol ,Wass and of course dino velvet ! lol
Agreed. It's also unthinkable to put him the ATG top 5 right now. This thread should be deleted in my opinion.
The thread isnt about Joshua you simpleton ,its about ranking past time greats who are NOT fighting any more , smh This is an example of why you are on my list . You cant even quote anyone correctly .lol
My post is possibly a little confusing, however your OP is also confusing. At first there's a video about the greatest heavyweights of all time, and then you stated that Joshua was top 5 all time in terms of head-to-head. Then there's this marvellous example of bad grammar: Finally, you've gone on to claim that all-time h2h and all-time greatness are totally distinct concepts. I dispute that on all counts. All-time-greatness usually refers to resume, but it can also refer to head-to-head ability or a combination of the two (e.g. the following threads: Where Do You Rank Calzaghe On Your h2h ATG List? Vitali H2H top 10 HW ATG?) and that was what I was meaning. What evidence do you have for Joshua being all-time H2H top 5? That he was KO'ed by Nistor and Price? I'm guessing, all you have is your eye-test? Mind, I think he is good and might become an ATG, but ranking him top 5 all time, even h2h, is ridiculous at this point in time. He's still improving, and he needs to prove his worth by fighting someone good. My point is unchanged: wait before making huge claims about AJ vs ATG heavyweights.
Theres nothing confusing at all no matter if you agree or not it doesnt change what the post is about its basic 6th grade level under standing . I never even mentioned ATG . I personally have him beating out anyone not named Lewis ,Klitchkos ,Tyson , based on a huge athletic fast 6'6 giant with great skills . You dont compare eras or resumes you compare the fighters .Last time i also checked he was never saved by the bell to a 180 pounder or knocked out before you go throwing resume and ATG status as evidance of how he was already exposed.