Anthony Mundine v. Librado Andrade - who wins?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Serious thread, now.:good

    I think Andrade's relentless pressure would prove too much for Choc. Choc couldn't hurt him as he keeps coming forward and the pressure would be a nightmare for Choc. I think Librado would stop him in the Championship rounds, or just before, after having been outboxed all night.

    Andrade TKO 10 Mundine.

    What do you think? (serious thread):good
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I think this is a very, very good fight, because of the mix of styles. I'm surprised it doesn't capture more people's imagination...:think
     
  3. Bentchassis

    Bentchassis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't exactly say Andrade is a massive pressure fighter, he stands in front of you, moving forward, granted, but he's slow and prefers to fight on the inside and catch you with uppercuts and big rights. He is also sluggish with his shots and Mundine moves well and has good evasiveness, creating opportunities to counter and work the jab.

    I think you can draw comparisons from the Andrade/Kessler fight here, while the styles are not identicle, Mundine would odopt a similar strategy.
    Kessler was able to use his quick feet movement to evade big shots leaving Andrade open and vulnerable for the counter, due the sheer speed of both Kessler and Mundine, this leaves Andrade more tentative to go for the bigger shots.

    I was impressed by Andrade today and IMO he may beat better fighters than Mundine, but you mentioned their styles work in Andrade's favour, I would say it's the other way around.:good
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I am surprised to read that!

    Does Mundine fight well off the backfoot? Certainly not even close to how well Kessler does, who excells at it.

    Remember that Mundine is a reflex fighter who likes to take breaks from time to time...Kessler had to work full time to keep Andrade off him; can Mundine do that effectively? I don't think he can do it for 12 rounds...it's just too much.

    Also, Mundine likes to press his advantage once he hurts opponents; he is pretty reticent most of the time, otherwise. Can he hurt Andrade? Not really...so it's unlikely that he'd be coming on to him much, even after he's caught him flush. Instead, Andrade would just keep coming forward, not cover up like e.g. Green did.

    Choc would really have to be on his toes throughout to win. Of course, if he is at his best, he has a decent chance, but most of the time, I think Andrade would have too much.

    In fact, I think Andrade would beat Mundine more times out of ten than Bute would beat Mundine. It's just a styles thing...

    ...not convinced?:good
     
  5. Collateral

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    Mundine would absolutely pick him to pieces...No hope of knocking him out but it would be a clear UD.
     
  6. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    I think it would be Mundine v Echols all over again. Mundine would outclass Andrade.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I haven't seen this fight yet...need to see it.:good
     
  8. kel

    kel Boxing Addict banned

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    This surely is a joke poll right??? :lol: :lol:

    Mundine plays with him every rd for a comfortable points victory.

    This is no Sven Ottke 10rd KO pal...... Mundine is in a different zone these days mate.

    One things for certain.....Andrade doesn't get KO'd by anyone under 100kg... the boy has a chin of granite :yep
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No...no joke...serious thread and serious poll.

    I think Mundine is better than Andrade, overall; but head to head, I think Andrade has a bit too much. Thins that Choc would have a better chance against Bute than against Andrade, because of styles. :deal

    I may be wrong of course but it's a very interesting fight because of styles, I think, so I'd want to discuss it and analyse it thoroughly.

    :good
     
  10. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    I reckon Mundine would probably eek out a decision in the region of 115-113. Andrade moves like he has concrete boots on and Mundine has too much movement for him.

    Bear in mind that this fight would probably happen in Australia.
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mundine on points, not the same domination we saw in the Kessler fight but bigger chance for the stoppage via brutal body shot or body-head combo... Andrade is a good all-out fighter but Mundine is on a different level, he is very good and few give him credit.
     
  12. kel

    kel Boxing Addict banned

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    I'm also keen to analyse it too mate, just abit tired tonight......going to hit the sack right now.:tired
     
  13. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well interesting fight - although Andrade is far too good for Mundine to fight him - after all he actully has beaten a decent fighter in recent times... :D

    And on a none dissing Mundine note... Mundine should be fast enough to beat Andrade - but and there is a big "but" - can Mundine keep him of? - Andrade is very very persistant and has a very high workrate. Mundine doesn't throw that many punches - will it be enough to keep Andrade away for 12 rounds? I have my doubts...

    Mundine also has a tendency to become timid facing pressure and big fighters - he is going to be facing both in Andrade.

    Mundine would be the favourite going into this fight - but my bet will be on Andrade for a late stoppage - or a point-win (mostly due to a much higher workrate)
     
  14. Bentchassis

    Bentchassis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mundine can also use his feet to work in and out of the contest, the RJJ style that Mundine clearly favours, allows him to quickly react by moving back, forward, to the side, round and round etc etc.

    Point is, Andrade has a lack of speed and all out attack leaves him vulnerable to Mundines style.

    IMO he misses more shots than he lands and Mundine takes advantage of this racking up points on the counter. Mundine can't hurt Andrade, I doubt anyone could, but he will evade and score.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :D :good