Anthony Mundine v. Librado Andrade - who wins?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I agree with everything you said. But that doesn't solve the problem, in the end, for Mundine. Fighting like RJJ is great, if you hve his power to hurt too...Choc doesn't...not Andrade, anyway.

    Even if Choc boxes Andrade's ears off for round after round after round, running around and keeping him off him, can he do it for 12 rounds? I'm not sure he can, mate...not Andrade, and not the way Mundine fights, like a cat. I think Andrade would win this war of attrition in the late rounds, after Mundine was leading by shut-out on the cards...
     
  2. Krisv1

    Krisv1 Member Full Member

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    Mundine is an average belt holder, but would out slick an even more average fighter in andrade.
     
  3. dwilson

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    Choc is not good enough a boxer to be able to keep away from a guy like Andrade. It would be a close call but I would seriously expect Andrade to stop Choc late fight.
     
  4. Bentchassis

    Bentchassis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well if Mundine's recent performances is anything to go by then Andrade will stop it even sooner.
    But benefit of the doubt goes to Mundine here, coasting against recent crap opposition means hopefully he's saving himself for the bigger occasion. Fingers crossed we will ever know:yep
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Choc beat Andrade. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Andrade beat Choc either...this is closer than some people think, because of styles. Yeah, Choc is better overall, but Andrade's style is really bad for him. If I had to go with one or the other, I'd go with Andrade by stoppage in the late rounds, after attrition from bodyshots. It's not Choc's chin or defence that I worry about here, it's that workrate and the attritional damage it does, particularly to the body.
     
  6. PorkChopExpress

    PorkChopExpress Champion of the Universe Full Member

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    Mundine would easily get out of the way of almost all of Andrade's punches and drop precision counters and jabs all night. Would be a good fight I think though... Andrade has a punchers chance and Mundine would have to be switched on the entire fight.

    Mundine UD
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I don't think Andrade has a puncher's chance. He doesn't have the one-punch power to stop Choc, I think, realistically; not with Choc's, defence, anyway...

    ...but on accumulation...I can see damage...
     
  8. pecks

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    Andrade's stocks went up a little for me, though I never really thought he was much more than a good advertisement for a punching bag before.

    I still think Mundine outpoints him. Andrade's big, he's strong, but he's clumsy and inaccurate. Mundine has a good defence too.

    The rounds should be close though, only because of Mundine's low workrate, and Andrade would pinch some simply by having a high work rate.

    Mundine UD by 3 or 4 points.
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Really?:think

    I think that if Choc doesn't get stopped, it won't be as close as that at all. I can see Choc doing enough to win the first 10 rounds, with a couple of close rounds included, but then, it all getting too much for him. Let's put it this way, I don't think Andrade can win without a stoppage, even fairly judged. His workrate and pressure either are too much for Choc, and Choc goes down, or they are no effective enough, in which case, I don't see why it has to be that close - Mundine wide decision.:think
     
  10. Rise Above

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    Mundines defence is to good for a guy like Andrade to win. Andrade has a punchers chance sure, but I'd say Mundine outboxes him to a UD.
     
  11. ApatheticLeader

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    Mundine UD.

    I think he would be too swift of hand and feet, and will probably nick rounds fighting off the back foot mostly.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    hmm...it's not the defence that I worry about. It's the pressure. You can have the best defence in the world and still sucumb to pressure, if your style is not suited to it...

    ...my argument was not that Mundine's chin/defence/stamina/speed etc would let him down, but his style of fighting in bursts, catlike, not well off the backfoot, against relentless pressure from a guy you cannot hurt, who keeps coming hungrily forward, like a machine.

    ...seems I haven't convinced many people though...:think
     
  13. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    I see your point but we all know Mundine will never fight him. :yep
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well, I agree it looks unlikely, but frankly, if I were his manager, I'd tell him to go for Bute or Froch v. Inkin winner rather than Andrade.

    Anyway...we can still discuss it, even if it won't happen.:D
     
  15. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well to be fair - Ottke stopped Mundine with one punch :)