Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua, OBE vs. Kubrat Venkov Pulev & Martin Bakole vs. Sergey Kuzmin RBR.

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    who lost? what happened there? fury has no quit in him
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly. Pulev won between 1-3 rounds, but the scorecards on here was just ridiculous and the main reason was, because people is just hating on AJ.
    I expected here to have more knowing people, not just straight up bias. And to really see the real showing of the fighters.
    Pulev was pretty much for the money, yeah he is with insane amount of well-being, and probably believe he will win, but Pulev is just to basic. A very solid fighter tho, who gives a lot of HW problems. He is a solid boxer, and was very talented, but didn`t turn that to a lets said magic. Never really see and works on his weak points as well. I also don`t think he put the really hard work into boxing and his life is not just all about boxing, unlike Joshua or Klitschko for example.
    Another thing is his trainer is ancient and his camp, tactics, whole preparation was miles behind Joshua for example.
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    Now on to Joshua. The bad thing is he didn`t finish the fight as he needed, and he obviously was annoyed big time by Pulev and lost his cool.
    Big thing to mention here is that Joshua last fight was a year ago, so that affect your performance.

    Everything else was good. No one here even mention how good Joshua was moving, how well he was dodging/avoiding Pulev jabs and shots, and how he create angle for his shots.
    The first KD comes from a masterpiece moving and very strong counter.
    Joshua wanted to show that he can box with a great boxer, which Pulev is. And he he not only can KO Pulev, but also to outbox him, which he did.
    Joshua was moving and was dodging punches perfectly well, and was landing very solid counters. He definitely improve his footwork by a lot, compare to his early years. Joshua is also very hard to hit now.
    Pulev may be old, but he is still super fast, not as fast as he used to be, but still fast.

    For me this was a great win for Joshua, against solid opponent, which is great to have in anyone resume.
    I still keep on my words that Joshua will KO Fury, he just have the better tools.
    People talks about Fury cardio, but Fury cardio is nothing really to talks about. He throws so few punches, and mostly arm punches, mainly because to pace himself.
    Fury has nothing to put against Joshua. In a close quarter, Joshua will land and probably KO Fury into oblivion with either hooks or his BIG BIG uppercut. And Fury loves to tied up in close, and Joshua is super explosive in the clinch and will land in there for sure. Joshua is going to be stronger in the clinches as well.
    And he is probably going to improve more in the next 6 months.
     
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  3. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s kind of what I thought there is no clear route back for him, I don’t know the fighters you are talking about but it doesn’t matter how good he looks against them he needs to fight up the rankings something he’s avoided as a champion I don’t see him having the will to do it to get back to the top or to a mandatory position, he’s going to need to have a good 3 or 4 fights to get in a position for a mandatory and then hope that the uk heavyweight boxing champions are free to fight it’s going to get quite congested soon with mandatories I think his best bet is fury beating Joshua and then he retires and the belts get scattered.
    The risk reward scale is massively against him because he has power
     
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  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't care what I've said, it doesn't put me in the same universe as you when it comes to bitching and crying about others' opinions. Nice try, and yes, you are a paper thin *****. You can **** off now.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, you're the one who came at me bitching you whiny ****. I wasn't bitching about a damn thing, you were... so it's you who can **** off.
     
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  6. N17

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    The Heavyweight Division IS DEAD.

    Fury is miles ahead of everybody, it's a one man division, it's not even a debate now, AJ isn't what people think he is.

    Don't tell me AJ is a huge puncher, he is OK but you don't hit a 40 year old clean that many times and he goes 9 rounds.

    No way that happens, huge punchers clean Pulev viciously and quickly.

    AJ and Hearn are basically going to cash out against Fury, that's what that will be, Hearn and AJ are looking down the road and there is nothing else this big so it's either this or defences like this and even casuals won't put up with events/cards like this much longer.. so it's now or never because they already missed the Wilder fight.

    Like to add, Wilder right now would ruin AJ, absolutely ruin him, I always thought AJ would beat Wilder but watching this fragile, brittle minded AJ tonight I'm sure Wilder would blitz him.


    Tonight, yeah sure, AJ beat a 40 year old who's best win is what? A points decision against Chisora? Fine, congratulations, well done, it was a average performance from a fighter who is a bit above average.
     
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  7. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice post,AJ & Fury is the fight we all want,atm for me it's 60-40 for Fury to win,that's how I feel atm.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thank you reasonable non-fanboy Brit.:beer-toast1: I love many British fighters, but the fans and their adoration of a handful, is maddening.
     
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  9. On The Money

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    Cunningham and Pajkic were flash knockdowns. Probably went down in part to protect himself rather than being concussed, evidenced by the fact he's back up and fighting more or less the same right after.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

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    Thank you
     
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  11. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Overall, it was a rather poor boxing event.

    Pulev was old and faded.
    Wach was even older and more faded.
    Neither Bakole nor Kuzmin (who wasn't in shape) impressed me.
    Jezewski shouldn't have even been there, they should have postponed Okolie's fight.

    And worst of all, there was a robbery: Marku clearly beat Stewart.
     
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  12. Drew101

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    Generally a good performance from Joshua. Did well to hurt Pulev early and to finish him off later on after Pulev regrouped. He was a little inconsistent in the middle rounds and let Pulev get some confidence and bank a couple of rounds or so, and was jolted a couple of times by right hands he didn't need to take. Think I might favor Fury in a potential unification, but AJ certainly retains enough power and finishing ability to get Fury out of there.
     
  13. N17

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    Hahaha :beer-toast1:

    I just say what I see and that's what I saw and that's what I see down the road.

    Anybody suggesting that was in anyway a good performance is talking absolute nonsense, AJ looked nervous, he looked tired after the 3rd, he couldn't sustain an attack to finish it.

    He gets a schooling from Fury, if he fought Fury tonight, Fury would have been slapping him silly, talking to ringside commentators, dancing, singing between rounds.. Fury would have embarrassed that version of AJ.

    People just need to open their eyes and be honest, AJ isn't what people pretend he is.
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is a good post. Yeah i got no problem with someone having Fury as a favorite, it might turns out like that, but in the HW you never know. One punch can change it all. Also just because someone get destroyed in 1 match, doesn`t mean he can`t get back and won the rematch or have a great career.
    People on here are way too over the line.
    For me again its a close fight, but if i got to bet i would go with Joshua, for me he have more potential, and more tools, its up to him and his team to get the right strategy for this fight.
     
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  15. Inglis_1

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    Dead right, and all you hear from AJ/Matchroom fans/employees is them going on and on about resumes as if it really matters.
     
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