Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua vs. Daniel Raphael Dubois & Anthony Cacace vs. Josh Warrington RBR.

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  1. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Resumes aren't just judged on wins. Losses count too and Joshua has 4 now and 2 were by stoppage.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    The claim was that Joshua is manufactured and a protected fighter. He rematched two of the guys who beat him, which further proves the BS claim of him being a protected fighter.
    ArseBandit also claimed that his resume was ****, but he himself only managed to think of two guys who have better resumes: Fury and Usyk.
     
  3. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury hasn't lost 4 times.

    Does Fury lose to Ruiz? Definitely not. Does Fury lose to Dubois? I think I'd probably lean towards Fury in that fight.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    OK, and? The claim was that Joshua is the protected fighter and hasn´t fought anyone of note. Yet his resume dunks on Fury as Joshua has fought twice as many top contenders and champions.

    Even if you think that Fury is better simply because he only lost to Usyk, doesn´t change the fact that Joshua tested himself more. "Does Fury loose to Ruiz/Dubois?" He never fought any of them, but Joshua did.
    Fury fought not a single top 10 guys before Wlad. He then fought Wilder, Whyte and Usyk. That´s 4 legitimate top 10 guys in his entire career. What a superb resume. Thing of legends.
     
  5. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua has only really fought guys he matches up well against. He's managed to avoid big super heavies like Fury, Wilder, Joyce, Zhang, Hrgovic etc. The big units who can match him for size and punch power he's not fought.

    It could be by design or it might just be circumstance but since Klit, how many punchers has he fought? Povetkin. That's it. And Povetkin isn't a super heavy.
     
  6. Drstillhammer

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    People can seethe all they want; fact is Joshua is finished as a top contender (if he ever properly was one). And no, Joshua his resumé is very poor. No excuses to be found there. Usyk and to a lesser extent Fury are the top of this generation. Joshua finds himself just ahead Whyte and Wilder on a good day.
     
  7. Cally

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    It's so satisfying watching AJ get beat up, aye!
    He has a terrible chin, but not surprising really considering he has a chin like tex! lol
     
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  8. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This content is protected
     
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  9. Badbot

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    Zhang, Hrgovic and Joyce all arrived at the world level in 2020 and later. Joshua won his first title 4 years prior. It´s circumstance because Joshua was tied to Usyk for several years and also the pandemic.

    Before that, Joshua fought several the top contenders who were there. And funny how you hold Joshua to such a standard, but who did Wilder and Fury fight?
     
  10. Badbot

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    If his resume is so poor, then surely there is a long list of guys with better resumes?
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Don't you fret Mirko! Look on the brightside and see this as the positive it is, and rejoice! Smug self awareness lacking blowhard walking cringe machine AJ got manhandled, dogwalked, beatdown, mangled, mugged, penetrated in every orifice, mauled, thrashed, abused, humiliated and humbled in epic fashion, with Daniel sadistically extinguishing whatever dying embers of his confidence that may have still been flickering, ass up in the air, slobbering all over the canvass and effectively ended him as an elite fighter. Giving us several twisted ankle liquored up Bambi on ice Breakin 2 The Electric Boogaloo stanky legs in the process. Which is always very good thing! Now when you take into consideration that the titanium chinned Usyk also beat Dubois via jabbed the **** out stoppage. Means he's both of their daddy's! Only his dimwitted but sweet natured child that everyone once thought was a gutless quitter and the family embarrassment due to Papa Usyk's tough love, his testicles quadrupled in size! Since Usyk beat AJ, AJ has gone on a can crushing tour against non-boxers, shot glass jawed has beens and featherfists. Not very impressive! Meanwhile, a revitalized Dubois now carrying around balls the size of grapefruits, who realized that going 9 rounds with Daddy Usyk was pretty damned impressive and that from here on out, everything will be a walk in the park and a piece of cake by comparison, so that much needed confidence boost has awakened a beast inside of him and has inspired him to go on to beat the iron chinned grumpy cat Hrgovic and the morbidly obese iron chinned Miller absolutely senseless, the same Hrgovic that beat Zhang by an ass whisker and the same Miller that beat the ever loving and ever living dog snot and compacted fecal material out of AJ conqueror Fat Andy. Now he's toppled Usyk's egomaniacal pampered coddled spoiled brat son, because he was resentfully tired of playing second fiddle and wanted all of their father's love and adoration to himself! So merely shift Dubois over to his rightful place as Usyk's second best win at Heavyweight behind Fury. See... easy adjustment!:D
     
  12. Drstillhammer

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    A poor resume is a poor resume, why does AJ"s need to be compared to other poor resumes? The lad got exposed badly last night for at least 4th time. Lets hope he deals with it properly and get some wins against the likes of Whyte or Wilder for a last payday.
     
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  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Yes he did and his performance on the night was poor making amateurish mistakes but we must give full credit to Dubois and in particular my friend his trainer the deserving Don Charles.
     
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  14. Stonehands

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    So political. Now we have a new emerging heavyweight in his absolute prime (27?! He'll peak until 32 if he doesn't get blasted out) and where does he go from here? Zhang? What about after? Old heavyweights (mainly due to you know who holding up the division) are most likely done after their rematch. No passing of the torch moment, just leaves more what if scenarios. Zhang had an unlucky streak too. I dont even know where I am going with this.

    Dubois impressed me today, mainly how he stayed composed and still threw that counter with precision, very calculated even while hurt. You really only have muscle memory and strong mental to bail you from those situations, and it paid HANDSOMELY. That right uppercut could have ended his **** and we'd be having a very different conversation right now. Legit could have went the other way if he acted 0.1 seconds later
     
  15. Badbot

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    If his resume is poor then who has a good resume in the division?