Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua vs. Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, May 23, 2021.

AJ or The Cat?

Poll closed Sep 25, 2021.
  1. Joshua on points

  2. Joshua by stoppage

  3. Draw

  4. Usyk on points

  5. Usyk by stoppage

  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Matchroom does not needs EE boxers for other purpose than to use them as stepping stones for their fighters.
    For EE boxers Eddie is worse than any one from US promoters.

    It is not Eddie fault that Chisora does not have Frazier level gas tank, then we had saw nice things happened with Usyk.

    It is not Usyk's problem that Chisora won only 3 rounds, started to gas, fought 1 even round and then lost 8 rounds in row.

    I know that if some ppl from this forum had scored this fight, they had with smile even scored 120-108 for Chisora.


    A.J had been saved by rematch clause vs Panda. LOL.
  2. zicas

    zicas Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 12, 2007
    AJ by wide decision after winning 4 out of 12 rounds.
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 9, 2015
    In order:

    I dismiss AJ's one-punch KO power and you mention ONE clean knock-out from six years ago (after breaking him down over the previous eight rounds and having him reeling in the first) which is inferior to middle-aged Povetkin's from last year against a better version of the same fighter. Wilder isn't seen as the hardest-hitting HW based on one KO but a string of them.

    Re: Gassiev's power. I quote a HW who has shared a ring with him and actually describes his power, you say 'look at the size difference'. So what? You can't 'see' power, only feel it (Wilder is smaller than AJ but hits a lot harder). And yes Usyk may have been rocked. Again, so what?

    He didn't struggle against Chisora. He won a unanimous decision despite being at 30% of his potential according to the boxer himself. Underperforming according to the fighter's own expectations is not the same as being 'pathetic' or 'struggling' as you now describe it.

    I quote AJ's words as he said them, you add spin to make them say the opposite.

    Why ask for a logical response when you are totally incapable of constructing a logical argument of your own?
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  4. BoxerToxer

    BoxerToxer Member banned Full Member

    Mar 1, 2021
    Look, Anthony Joshua will KO Usyk, in a brutal fashion. Only 10 days left. Let's see who is right after 10 days.

    Then it will be Joshua vs Fury. Everybody will be much more richer with that match. There is no chance Usyk wins this. It's Joshua's, Fury's and Matchroom's endgame, not Usyk's.
  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Nothing wrong, pro boxing is business to entertain ppl.
    Usyk already is not poor man and if he had choice to continue to be punched in the face for paycheck, it is his problem, A.J problem too.

    Yeah, even if he will KO A.J endgame will be matchroom game.

    Nothing wrong, Ruiz already had mopped floor with A.J in US. Clause had helped him a lot.

    Please do not be delusional: professional boxers are more ancient than tribal cavemans regards to real fight and this always will be this.
    Symbols of national pride and masculinity: pro boxers with market where to sell them.
    Stone age cavemans perfered stone hammers and wood bats and to fight in groups. LOL.

    In pro boxing pride is $ in bank account.
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    I most likely should place bet on A.J and I'm still concerned: if he will appear to be a bum in this night, I will have loss in $$$$.
    Dunno, likely big bodybuilder in Eddie show should win this one. Bookies prefer him to win.
    Ruiz I fight still makes me cautious cos maybe A.J is chinny. Maybe, will see.
  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 24, 2005
    Honestly, I don't know who will win. Usyk is a terrific fighter and a credit to the sport, while Joshua is a physically imposing, powerful heavyweight and a worthy champion.

    I would be surprised, however, if Usyk earns a decision on the cards, irrespective of what actually happens in the ring.
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Yeah he looks better there but if he's weighing 231, which is what he's reputedly weighing and what I've seen him weighing on the scales twice now, and will weigh for the fight according to his manager, is way too much IMO.
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his ├žock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    Oddschecker has Joshua -285 and Usyk +210, but the majority of public bets placed are backing Usyk:

    Joshua 33.41%
    Draw 6.02%
    Usyk 60.49%
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
  11. miniq

    miniq Big Stiff Idiot banned Full Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    I like this fight a lot

    Both bring their best it's a great fight with AJ edging it on a British scorecards

    Either one of them brings anything sub standard they are going to have a bad night.

    Skills pay the bills

    I just want to see AJ gets shook again mentally or physically. LOL. He is funny to watch.
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  12. Carl Weathers

    Carl Weathers Member Full Member

    Nov 3, 2019
  13. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King Full Member

    Sep 17, 2021
    Loserham's unnecessary luxurious stadium. Perfect location for arrogant frauds called Hearn and bodybuilder.
  14. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    I think Usyk knows there is no way he's getting a decision, it's very likely he'll try to go for KO.

    Usyk would need to win 9 rounds very clearly in order to get the nod. I see him winning 4-5 clearly, 5-6 close rounds and 2-3 clear rounds for AJ. He needs a KO or he'll get Golovkined
    Any close round will go to AJ
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  15. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    You're manipulating data to fit your narrative. Gassiev weighed in at 198.2lbs for the Usyk fight and rehydrated to between 220-225lbs, which puts him between 10-20 lbs below current Joshua.