Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua vs. Robert Gabriel Helenius & Filip Hrgović vs. Demsey McKean RBR

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think I remember that now that you mention it
     
  2. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Knowing how boxing logic works, we need to push back every major heavyweight fight, freeze the division for a year, and have Fury fight Helenius.
     
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  3. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My point was Lewis took unexpected losses and adapted, rebuilt and got his confidence back finishing the rest of his career strongly.
    Joshua is surrounded by yes men meaning evolution and adaptation was not possible.
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ohh Lordy How I wish Ike Ibeabuchi had never called that Vegas hooker. He'd have made mincemeat of the body builder
     
  5. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    It's sad to think how different the heavyweight scene could have been if Ibeabuchi could've just stayed out of trouble. Truly one of the biggest "what could have beens" of the last couple of decades.
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Lennox losses were his own fault he didn't take McCall or Rahman seriously & he knows it. He'd have been like Rocky Marciano retiring undefeated Plus Never being tempted to make a comeback either
     
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Yes indeed All he needed was medical help, but all Kushner & co saw was $$$$$$$$$$$ they ignored him & his problems That hooker put the tin hat on his career that's for sure
     
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  8. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way Hearn would ever let AJ in the same time zone as Ibeabuchi
     
  9. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    Hey now, he might... y'know, now, or at the very least in a couple more years :lol:
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Helenius only has himself to blame, was well in the fight but forgot to keep his hands up against the ropes. When you have a suspect chin against a big puncher who is at least a level higher that's what happens.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why wouldn't if rob him of his motivation to do another job?
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But you still have to work.
     
  13. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My point was Lewis got them losses back due to having time to recover.
     
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  14. kirk

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    Imagine being a Fury fan and complaining about someone being a scam artist. :lol:
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am going to point out yet again that I think Fraudley was another obvious dive, as he screams in shock just before he gets hit, he begins to collapse from one punch, Wilder widely misses with follow ups, and then the ref waives it off. What the hell was that if not a fix?

    Also, I am 50-50 on Lyacovich. I found the twitching theatrical. Wilder nut huggers have post supposedly similar twitching from boxing and MMA fights that actually looked nothing like it and just re-enforced my idea.

    Scott pretty much admitted it was a dive with his post of him as a diver, so with Helenius, there are two that I am absolutely sure were fixed, and two that I am not sure but smell wrong. The only reason that I do not completely believe that Helenius was a fix is because it is Helenius, and yeah, he can be that bad.
     
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