Anthony Small sees parallel with Ali

So basically you are admitting you have blind loyalty to muslims over non-muslims, regardless of morality of the actions of the muslims and non-muslims. So a muslim ********** ****** and mass murderer would get your loyalty over a non-muslim 'saint' who had done nothing but good acts all their life.

Obviously with that belief system you are going to be viewed by everyone outside your group as immoral scum.

 

What country launched a deadly sneak attack on another country?

 

It's reasonable for him to protest against the war, it's not reasonable the manner in which he protested - at a homecoming event where fallen soldiers are commemorated, returning soldiers are reunited with their families etc. Holding up protest signs which would obviously inflict emotional pain on bereaved relatives, showing no respect for the innocent parties involved who have never even set foot in Afghanistan.

For example, I can protest against islam but it would be dishonourable of me to do so by taking pork chops and 6 packs of beer to a funeral of a muslim, or into a mosque during ramadan. Since muslims generally have a stronger appreciation of the concept of honour than today's westerners, this makes it even worse of Small to violate that.

As for how to know his beliefs - the only way anyone can determine those is by what he does. Small's actions show where his allegiance and concerns lie, and who he simply doesn't give a **** about. Actions spead louder than words.

He does not require a Taliban parade to protest at. He could easily protest against the Taliban from the safety of the UK. So far, I have seen no reports of him protesting after 9/11, 7/7, or any other time when the Taliban and Al Queda groups killed innocent people, including his own muslim "brothers". This is strange since the islam explicitly forbids mass killing of civilians. Besides, there have been plenty of Taliban parades in Afghanistan. He could have gone and protested some of those if he did in fact care about the muslim victims of Taliban oppression.

Finally, on the actual moral status of the Afghanistan war and occupation - the effective government of Afghanistan at the time of 9/11 was the Taliban. Just as the effective government of Germany in 1939-1940 was the Nazis. Both regimes then launched aggressive military action against the UK's allies. In fact, the Taliban was worse than the Nazis in their initial attack because they made no declaration of war and deliberately targeted civilians rather than the enemy military. This immediately gave the UK full moral right to declare a retaliatory war, up to and including occupying hostile territory in order to totally defeat the aggressor. So even if continuing the Afghanistan war is a terrible idea, it is still 100% justified in moral terms as defense against aggression, up until the Taliban are wiped out as an effective force. Occupying an enemy-controlled country because they attacked you first is entirely acceptable under most moral systems, including islam itself.

 

This is nothing but emotive bollocks. Its not a commemoration for the war dead and to suggest that it is, is totally disingenuous. It is equally as disingenuous to suggest that it’s the point at which the soldiers are reunited with their families. So you concede that it is reasonable for him to have a protest and you have deliberately misinterpreted what these parades are about to make it seem like an unreasonable time and place. It’s not. Its absolutely the right time and right place.

That is complete nonsense. What would you be protesting against? That would make you a sectarian bigot. Its would be a protest with no grounding whatsoever. A terrible example.

Not really. He did something and everybody misconstrued what he did. He then clarified his position via a you tube video. So you have his actions AND his words and you still don’t get it.

What does that mean? He has protested against the unjust treatment of innocent men, women and children. Do you disagree with that?

Don’t be silly

Sorry, you can’t have it both ways. Nobody recognised the Taliban as being the legitimate government of Afghanistan except for Pakistan. So this is just bull****. Not the UK, not the USA, not anyone. Lets call a spade a spade here. Lets not go back and create a false morality about this that doesn’t exist. If you do want to go down that road, tell me who installed the Taliban in the first place?

This is an argument about Anthony Small and his protest. We probably shouldn’t cloud it with everything else.

This all smacks to me of a reaction to something that you all think should be wrong……but it isn’t. When questioned about it, you have to find something wrong, but there is nothing there.

 

No taliban member has carried out any attacks in the UK or the US, no Afghan has carried out any attacks in the UK or US. So where do you get this idea that the Taliban attacked us and we want to defend ourselves. It's the other way round, since Iraq and Afghanistan the security threat has gone up. We have already set a date of when we are leaving Afghanistan which shows we have finally realised we can not win. No doubt the puppet government will be overthrown again and the taliban will run Afghanistan after we have left, will we go in for round 2?