Anti Joshua

Parker
Povetkin
Wlad
Whyte

Wilder's best win is Ortiz. Wilder's second best win is Stiverne.
Tyson's best win is Wlad. Tyson's second best win is probably Cunningham or Chisora.

If I was the biggest AJ hater out there I'd still stand by this.

Aj has a lot more depth to his resume.

 

Again, you're really reaching.

Name me Wilder's third and fourth best win...

 

So you can't get better with time? Look at Hopkins...

 

Wilder best win is Ortiz. AJ has beaten 4 better fighters in Wlad, Parker, Povetkin and Whyte.

After ortiz you can debate between Duhaupas, Washington, Breazeale and Stiverne being his next best win. That says it all.

 

Means a lot considering how much longer Wilder has been a pro, held the belt, and who he has faced.

Do you understand how much better Wilder's resume would be with two more names on it that are good?
Besides, two decent wins more at HW than your opponent speaks volumes. Especially when you're both in the same era/generation.

You clearly have an agenda against AJ.

 

So AJ has the better resume? That was a long way for a shortcut mate

 

A resumé shouldn't just be about adding up quality of wins. Losses and draws should also come into account.

Wilder has a draw with the lineal champ and one of the other big players in the division. Joshua has a loss to someone whose legitimacy as an elite heavyweight is based entirely on that win. These need to be factored in when comparing a fighter's body of work.

Joshua has a better resumé than Wilder, but that could easily change in a few months time depending on results.

 

Wlad hardly threw a punch against Tyson, and he had personal problems outside of the ring.

Wlad came into the AJ fight knowing he gets retired if he loses. Big difference.

 

Not at all. I find AJ to be a fake. Entertaining? For sure, but that's it. Can't stand his schtick.

So what's better; Wlad, Ortiz and a draw, or Wlad, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin? The latter is better than the former combined, end of.

It has the best name on there and others that are better. Clearly anti-AJ, mate. Just admit it.

You're dining out on the "light years" bit. AJ's record is deeper and better than those two records combined, end of.

 

Whyte and AJ were domestic level at that point. Parker may have held a belt, but so did Charles Martin. Parker is average at the very best. Looked average as soon as he got to orld level. Takam, Ruiz, Cojanu, Joshua, Whyte, Fury, not looked good once.

So Fury beat a better Klitschko, made CHisora quit and "drew" with Wilder, and Wilder beat Ortiz.

There’s more filler to AJs resume than Fury, but names like Breazeale, Molina & Takam are comparable to what’s on Wilders record, he even has two of them.

So to say his resume is better than them both combined is fairly disingenuous.

 

I’m not saying you can’t. I’m saying he didn’t. He was at the end of his career, if he really had got better, he would never have retired.

 

Whyte laid out Chisora, and is higher ranked than Chisora.

Clearly not, but you have bought the hype of a certain fighter who goes like and death with the Otto Wallin's of this world.

 

Whyte isn't domestic now, is he? And he was world ranked when AJ beat him.

Parker is miles in front of Martin, don't take the **** with that one.

Never beat a better Wlad. Jesus, rematch those fights. Tyson never beat Ortiz, so topi the ABC theory as it does not work in combats sports.

 

Check the build up to the fight.

Are you typing this from a caravan?

 

You're bang on mate. I had to look at boxrec to see what I was missing on AJ's resume but I wasn't missing anything. There's not much on it.

- Very nice win v a 41 year old Klitschko. 41 year old Klitschko was still a formidable opponent and AJ deserves huge credit for that win.
- Povetkin is an impressive win although he was past his best at 39. Like Klitschko, he was still a formidable opponent.
- Parker is a good win but nothing extraordinary. He almost lost to Hughie Fury and lost to Whyte after

The Whyte win isn't much to talk about because he was crude, British level fighter at the time. That's not the current version of Whyte who would be a good win if they fought now. Takam isn't great and got sparked by Chisora shortly after.

It's not AJ's fault his resume is light. He took on all comers apart from Wilder. The problem is all comers are pretty weak in the division. He also now has a loss v Ruiz in a fight that his punch resistence and stamina looked appalling.

I've never liked AJ but I'm no hater and I respect the man. He done all that's been asked of him up until the Ruiz fight, although I think his team avoided the Wilder fight. I'd like Ruiz to win the rematch but if AJ wins, I'll be happy for him because I've no doubt he's working his ass off and he currently has the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Ruiz aside, AJ's resume is close to as good as it can be at the time he was accumulating wins. However, it's a very thin resume because the solid competition just wasn't there.

I don't understand why people big up his resume? Three noteworthy wins and that's not a harsh or unfair assessment. That's reality.