Wikipedia is a joke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Inoki 16 wins (9 KO, 5 submissions, 2 pins), 1 loss (1 KO), 3 draws Draw "Ali time limit" Win "Andre the Giant TKO (head to ring corner post)" Win "Chuck Wepner Submission (boston crab)" Win "Leon Spinks (Pin) :huh wtf Does this mean Ali is 0-0-1 in mma.
i am guessing most of that is staged if he wins the WWF martial arts belt, no one is going to loose to a Boston crab, No one is going to loose to a leg drop He is not going to beat Andre the giant by head to ring post corner, Andre the giant would rip a normal human being to pieces with his bear hands. He has a draw when they both fell out of the ring, sounds fake to me.
Only thing I'm sure of is Inoki would have had one of the ATG chins. This content is protected Who the **** is cracking that thing?
Actually - the Ali fight wasn't staged. Inoki tried to pull a shoot on Ali. The fight wound up going to the time limit and was declared a draw. Lesson 1 about fighting the Japanese in Japan - if they see a chance to screw you over - they will try to take it.
There was an interesting fight between Antonio Inoki and Willie Williams from Kyokushin-Karate. As far as I know it was a draw and both guys were hurt. Unfortunately I did not find a film of this fight till now.
Well what happened was Ali's camp come with a whole heap of rules which meant Inoki couldnt do anything. In a 'shoot' the fight would of lasted 1 round as Inoki would of submitted him. American pro-wrestlers who have been to Japan do say the Japanese will get at you if they can. What these wrestlers didnt or dont realise is the industry is so much different in Japan. You cant go there thinking its like that WWE 'sports entertainment' crap. The majority of pro-wrestlers in Japan have amatur wrestling backgrounds and an understanding of Jiu-Jitsu as the dojo's dont just teach you how to 'work'. If you go to Japan and get stiffed in the ring you have to stiff them right back. Moaning about it wont do a thing as being 'stiff' in Japan is normal and not unexpected. The majority of those clowns in in the WWE would last about 5 mins in Japan as they wouldnt like the 'strong style'. They wouldnt like the kicks and strikes. Takada 'shooting' on Trevor Birbeck in UWFI is classic. Birbeck demanded more money on the night of the match and Takada taught him a lesson.
They don't have amateur wrestling experience really. The ones who used to be amateur wrestlers do, obviously. Dojos there are ****ed up, though.
And Takada is my favourite wrestler ever, but he just kicked him in the leg a ****load of times. Takada wasn't much of a legit fighter, got his ass kicked in PRIDE, but did a huge amount for the popularity of MMA in Japan.
A lot of people who went with Takada in the Gym say he was awesome. They say he would hook people time and time again. His run in pride was disappointing but what people tend to forget is Takada was 34 when he started with Pride. 34 and a man who had been pro-wrestling for 16 years. Thats a whole lot of toil on the body. The Amateur circuit was the main breeding ground for the Puroresu promotions. With the rise of MMA in Japan Pride and K-1 could offer those wrestlers more money so a lot would go to MMA instead of Pro-wrestling. However now now the MMA boom is over in Japan once again we should start to see the amateur wrestlers go the New Japan and Noah again.
Takada never worked an especially high impact style, if he was Kenta Kobashi or something, then yeah, huge toil. No doubt he was probably hard among pro wrestlers, but it's not the same. And the ammys was a breeding ground to an extent, plenty of guys with the experience, plenty of guys without. A lot of the best had no ammy experience, like Akira Hokuto.
MaliSlamusRex's typo becomes even more hilarious with an actual bear avatar bouncing around the thread.