You are smarter than I initially gave you credit for. Working that out all by yourself. :good I sense that even now you are the missing the point.
Tell you what if Margo can convincingly beat Clottey or Williams I'll apologize lol. Then I'll HAVE to give him credit because he "earned" it by beating them. I cant discredit him if he keeps winning..He finaly beat a great fighter in Cotto do it one or 2 more times and even I'll have to give him credit and be a believer. Thats what happened with my feelings towards Cotto. I finally had to give him his credit when he beat Mosley and Judah
Yes. Margarito is overrated by those who say he is like a new Hagler. Margarito is good but has A LOT of flaws. The ones who say that Williams-Margo-Cotto-Clottey are a new fab four like Hearns-Hagler-Duran-Leonard are also overrating all of them.
Yes, that is true and I respect Margarito also for overcoming those hurdles. I mean that some people overrate like he is untouchable and can never be beaten. Then they try and discredit Paul Williams and make excuses, that is what annoys me.
You'll have to give him credit now based on that logic, because Margarito has already "earned" his placing. He beat the best fighter campaigning at 147lb, something Floyd Mayweather Jr failed to do during his brief and "overrated" stint at Welterweight. This is your opportunity to apoligise and give Antonio Margarito the credit he deserves.
That is only based on a very small minority, and I'll say it again, doesn't warrant a thread like this.
Mayweather beat Zab (Cottos best welterweight wins were against Zab and Shane so if Mayweathers campaign is overrated then you base Cotto only on his close narrow victory over Shane?and oh ya Quintana (who Floyd would be able to beat too)..) Mayweather didnt just beat he completley outclassed THE REAL welterweight champion Balthazar as Yoel Judah would say :yep. Mayweather knocked out an undefeated and extremly motivated Ricky Hatton. He lost to Paul Williams... like I said until he clears that up or beats Clottey then I will give him credit. I thought Shane would knock Cotto out but he didnt and Cotto won... once he proved himself the 2nd time and proved himself then I gave him credit.. itll take more than 1 victory over a name fighter especially when youve already lost (Williams) to completley get m credit as the best. Being the best takes a lot and if Margo can beat Williams or Clottey I will have no choice but to give him the credit. My complete credit doesnt come easily (dont get me wrong I respect Margo in the ring I know hes come a long way but so has every other champion...)
I think you should just admit that if Margarito and Mayweather fought you would want Margarito to put a hurting on Mayweather. Admit it.
sorry but I have to disagree.. as far away from his prime years that Shane might be he will still always be a great fighter and will fight and brawl if he has to. He wont go down without a fight..
I have to disagree with you. Besides Mosleys 2nd win over DLH (Which shouldn't be a win for reasons other than I feel he lost). What has Mosley done? His biggest win is over Collazo, who had lost to Hatton. His next biggest win is either over a very very shot Vargas or David Estrada.
Of course there are always risks.....you risk getting in to an accident driving in your car or breaking a leg walking down the block....but in boxing just like in life there are levels of Risk that people weigh. It's highly unlikely that you are going to break a knee cap walking down to the corner store, or wrecking your vehical driving to work. My point is Floyd "chooses" to take less "risky" fights......fights that match up well in his mind and that is very true. He is calculated in his career path. Again....I'm not knocking him, just stating truth. Of course it's not FLoyds fault that whom ever he faces he is given the benefit of the doubt that he is the better boxer....he's been blessed with many gifts physically and talent wise. Which is not uncommon in this sport...there are always favorites and underdogs. There are always "Chances" that the outcome in a boxing match won't be what is expected by the masses...UPSETS happen...but they are called upsets for a reason. Anything can happen in boxing...it's what makes our sport so exciting, but the likelihood of floyd loosing to a counter puncher/boxer style like Chico was slim to none....The odds were stacked against Chico, but not a crazy odd in favor of May...Chico has that one punch KO power that helps him in any fight, whether he's the underdog or not. Those preformances were very good, but not one that will be etched in the history of boxing forever. The wins against chico and gatti have to be put in perspective....Gatti wasn't a prime fighter, he was on the downward end of his career...plus DLH put on a similar preformance and just as dominant against a fresher Gatti a few yrs earlier. The preformance against Chico was a very good one, but agian...perspective...Chico wasn't at his best, he was in the risk of going to prison for marital abuse and he was going against a guy whos stylistically was a terrible match up.:good But non the less...Floyds a great Boxer......Antonio Marg on the other hand is a great "fighter".