Antonio Margarito vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. - who's more disgraceful now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by caneman, Sep 9, 2010.


  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The floyd fanboys living in denial are ****in pathetic. :-(
     
  2. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're like a broken record Lance. You know my stance, but you've never answered one simple question.

    If the state really thought Floyd Mayweather Jr. was a threat to his ex, his children and the greater state of Nevada. He would not have maintained FULL custody of his children. How is that?

    When you answer that question, we can continue the discussion.
     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Do you know anyone who had a violent household? Well now you do. My father used to beat my mom (for reasons like having my legs full of mosquito bites from vacation) before they ended their marriage when I was about 4 and a half. My mom struggled to give us a normal life all because she didn't know what a piece of **** she married. If Margarito actually (meaning he was caught or proven guilty) ended or damaged someones career by use of plastered wraps, I'd change my tune.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Why the **** do you think I have to answer that? :huh And of course, you think that ONE bit is the key to Floyd's innocense? The truth is, I don't have an answwer for that. I am not privvy to all the court docs, or especially with custody agreements (which are seperate from this BTW).

    You keep ignoring the points I make. WHY would Floyd plead guilty with two high profile Vegas laywers representing him? AND with no evidence and only a coerced kid?

    I've asked you this several times, and you don't really say anything. Think about it dude. As you put it NO EVIDENCE. Add TWO high profile attorneys. MILLIONS of dollars to use for denfese. And he still HAD to plead guilty.

    You are in denial friend. Sorry, but you have too much hero worship to see this clearly.
     
  5. teemy

    teemy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say Mayweather is the more disgraceful and wins the matchup.

    His bullying tactics have backfired in his outside of the ring life and now he is going to jail. Knowing him and his ego and entourage, this behavior and results are likely to get worse in time. So, yes, Mayweather wins this disgraceful challenge versus Antonio now but it is still a work in progress and should be revisited in the future for greater disgraceful considerations.
     
  6. TheRoadWarrior4

    TheRoadWarrior4 Active Member Full Member

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    At least Floyd didn't get KTFO immediately after revealing what a disgrace he was
     
  7. i dont understand why everyone thinks margarito is disgraceful his trainer was caught trying to load his gloves he knew nothing about it, o and btw the polls wrong it says mayweather #2 p4p in the world, you meant to say #1 p4p peace
     
  8. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lance, at this point I think you're just trolling.

    Maybe you've watched too much Matlock or Law and Order and think just because you have high priced attorneys, you're automatically getting off for murder. Here we go...

    The only evidence the state needed was the two police reports of Ms. Harris' statement and the child's statement, to bring Floyd up on charges. Whether the state thought they were going to win or not, was irrelevant. If they REALLY thought they would win, there would have been NO plea deal. Especially not to the degree to drop the other two charges against him for the other two assault cases with the guards.

    You're stuck on this high priced lawyer thing. Since they are so high-priced, WHY in the hell do you want to drag this out into a trial?? This was not a plaintiff vs. defendant. This was THE STATE OF NEVADA vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. This trail would've been massive! His whole family would've been brought in to testify, public trial dates, a jury, the whole damned shabang.

    Maybe you should go to a local library to the law section and look up some old cases. You'll see that if at all possible, NO ONE wants to go to trial unless they have no other choice. The FACT is Josie Harris did NOT want to press charges against Floyd Mayweather Jr., at that point, it was out of everyone's hands. Guilty pleas does not always mean you're guilty and everyone who thinks that is an idiot, sorry to be so blunt.

    You can't answer my question because you have no logical answer. Let me put it in bold letters so you understand.

    THE STATE WOULD NEVER ALLOW FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. TO MAINTAIN FULL CUSTODY OF ALL OF HIS CHILDREN IF HE WAS DEEMED A THREAT TO THEM, OR THEIR MOTHER.

    :hi:
     
  9. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes I know people who've grown up in violent households, members of my immediate family. Mayweather was not caught or proven guilty, he pled guilty. Margarito was caught with something in his wraps... Some think Margo's trainer did it without Margo knowing, others say he took the fall. Nobody knows for sure, it's assumed by many Margo knew. Nobody know's for sure if Mayweather is guilty, it's assumed by many he is. As a boxing fan, on a boxing website, an attempted loading of gloves is more disgraceful than a domestic dispute to me.

    We're on the general forum for BOXING, so the attempted boxing cheat should be looked at as worse here in my opinion... If people want to complain about how immoral it is for Floyd to hit his girlfriend, it should be discussed in the lounge. :thumbsup
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You just want to believe what you want because you love Floyd mayweather Jr. A pro fighter who beat up women TWICE now.

    If Floyd didn't do anything, you don't think his two high proifile lawyers would be able to get him off? And you are the one trying to question me?

    The reason I mention his two high profile attornies is because Floyd obvoously wanterd the best defense he could find. Are you aware of that?

    WHY go after to top lawyers if you are just going to accept a plea? Don't you think Floyd asked them questions on his options as well? Or TRIED To get out of it all, since you think he did nothing? And their answer, "No Floyd, even if you did nothing, there's NOTHING we can do to help. You have to go to jail." :patsch

    You are probably goig to go to your grave thinking Floyd NEVER hit a women before in his life. And the ONLY reason is because he's your fave fighter.

    And for the record, NO, I am not trolling, I am simply trying to get you to open your ****in eyes by asking you questions you REFUSE to acknowledge.

    All you want to do is cheer for a ****in women beater. And you've convinced yourself nothing happened, despite Floyd admitting in the plea. :patsch
     
  11. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lance, you don't know what you're talking about. And it's your lack of knowledge about what happens in courts that is crippling you. That's why you're getting a bit....tight.

    You do know when you plead guilty, everyone knows you're going to accept the plea deal, you still have to go through the degrading series of admissions.

    The judge reads the list of charges and before each charge he/she says "do you admit". The doesn't always mean you are guilty, that is the procedure you have to go through to accept a plea deal.
     
  12. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Void by far... He hits women and scares his own children.
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    not what he says...everytime he's serious, he says he wants to be a rold model for kids....i mean, the dude loves his so why wouldn't he care about being a positivie influence on the millions of other kids that watch him
     
  14. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This wasn't a murder trial, I think you got soaked into that O.J. trial when it went down in the 90's.

    A trial would've probably cost Floyd tens of millions of dollars and a very public trial. You however, can't seem to think beyond your small idea of what the law is. I hope you never go to trial buddy. :good
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch Jesus ****in christ....look, if you did NOTHING, you don't plead guilty FFS. He was not FORCED to plead guilty, he chose to.

    You keep saying I don't know what I am talking about, WTF do you know? You aren't providing ANYTHING of substance.

    I am asking you WHY two major attornies could not get floyd off if he did nothing, and there's no evidence? So, why not use your brain and explain that?

    BTW, from an article http://www.blackchristiannews.com/news/2011/12/boxer-floyd-mayweather-jr-was.html.

    "The judge said she was swayed by Mayweather's admission that he hit Harris and twisted her arm, and that two of their children, ages 9 and 10 witnessed the attack."

    So there you go. Floyd ADMITTED IT. Is that enough for you to finally accept what Flopyd did?