Antonio Margarito Would Have Castillo'd Floyd Much, Much Worse Than Castillo Did...

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    You mean like the needle marks roach spotted on Oscars arms before Pac beat that dead man walking?
    Pac is such a h G h doe
     
  2. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Who is Tony Wilkes...??? You mean Tony Weeks...!!!
     
  3. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    klitschko...??? Vitali took a steroid that was prescribed by a doctor for an injured leg. The steroid was banned from Olympic competition, and neither Klitschko failed a test as a pro...!!!
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Once again you're going on about **** that doesn't matter skills win fights not that other ****.:deal You go on about it because it's all you have.
    Footwork PBF
    Ring IQ PBF
    Accuracy PBF
    Speed PBF
    Defense PBF
    Countering PBF
    Jab PBF
    These are things that win you fights "skills" not he comes forward with a good work rate and has heart that's just wishful thinking. PBF beats Margo because he can simply stick and move on his slow plodding ass for a full 12 rounds and not fade, there's nothing Margo can do about that if he fights like that got it.:deal

    The rest of your post is typical hate and made up stuff. You do realize PBF would have fought Margo as pointed out in this article as stated by Bob Arum of all people

    http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

    Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

    I'm sorry I deal in facts unlike you with nothing to back up your claims. Arum undervalued PBF who went on to fight Oscar for at that time the biggest PPV and money fight in History he went on to fight Hatton for 30 million Cotto for 40 million he was asking for a mere 10 with Arum. You already know PBF GBP didn't do business with Arum back then. How many other Top Rank GBP fights were made during this cold war? But let me guess blame PBF after all he ducked the great Antonio Margarito. Funny when Cotto leaves Top Rank the fight gets made.

    With Williams he was never really in the position to secure a fight with PBF he lost to Quintana the very next fight ruining the progress he made after beating Margo. But let me guess blame PBF for the fight not happening right? You just want to blame PBF for all the problems in the world today don't you?

    With Pac he turned down the first fight because of testing this is documented and backed up by Roach who admitted that they didn't want the fight because they didn't want to do testing but once again blame PBF.

    The only fight I'll give you is Khan because I wanted that fight over Maidana but back then people here felt that Maidana was more deserving he came off a huge win over Broner and had a belt meanwhile Khan had no belt and went life and death with Diaz. With that said had he fought Khan people would have bashed PBF and said he ducked Maidana a guy who beat his boy and can beat his style and the type of guy you said gives him problems with pressure. PBF can't win with people like you, in your words if he fights a stylistic threat which you said Maidana was he's accused of ducking Khan if he fights Khan who went life and death with Diaz and Chris he's a cherry picker.

    In conclusion, PBF beats Margo easy he's not the guy to beat PBF he's too flawed and limited he won't throw 100 punches a round because PBF won't be in range for him to do so it's foolish to even suggest it and you know it but are so blinded by your hate you refuse to admit it. Next time pick a better fighter than a guy with almost a dozen losses and a disgraced limited cheat who never had a win of note after being exposed for loading his gloves to bring down TBE.:hi:
     
  5. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Game, Set, Match:deal:deal
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Keep licking that a$$.

    :good
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only ass licker you who's obsessed with a slow ass, plodding, cheating bum who got spanked by, Mosley and Pacquiao while Floyd schooled them.:good
     
  8. divac

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    :lol::lol::lol:
    We're going around in circles here. Your notion that skills always win out is flawed. If that were true, how would you explain Margarito beating the likes of Cotto and Sergio Martinez?

    Iran Barkley twice beating Hearns?

    Just Margarito himself has fought many fighters more skilled than he was that didn't have success against him.

    A fighter that applied a lot of pressure to Mayweather that's not greatly skilled but still caused Mayweather some issues was Ricky Hatton.
    Hatton is only a bit more skilled than Margarito and not by much imo, and yet that pressure slowed Mayweather's workrate and gave him a lot of problems.

    You can keep going on and on about skills beating everything and most of the time it does, but there are special circumstances where a specific style can cause a much more skilled fighter severe problems.

    An immensely skilled fighter like Mayweather with a history of having a low workrate against someone like Margarito with a history of having an extraordinary high workrate. Who keeps coming forward and doesn't let incoming deter him.

    You can turn a blind eye to the obvious if you want, but there aren't that many fighters in the history of boxing in the mold of Antonio Margarito.
    If you think there are some like Margarito during Mayweather's era, name them?

    Workrate and ablity to take a shot can go a long way even against much more skilled fighters.
    Frazier vs Ali!!! Just another matchup that comes to mind.

    No need really to go any further, you have a history around here to back the black fighter no matter what.
    In a case like this where it black against Latino, you're just not one to be of open mind and admit to there could be reasons why a much less skilled fighter can beat the black ATG fighter in Floyd Mayweather.

    You just have blinders on Pimp.
     
  9. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im on my phone so I can't respond like I want to this, but Hatton is not only more skilled than Margario, but significantly faster especially in terms of foot speed. That makes all the difference in the world if you want to have a chance as implementing a successful pressure gameplan against Floyd. You can't plod forward like Margarito.
     
  10. tinman

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    Ever hear of Carlos Monzon? Foot speed isn't necessary if you have no wasted movement and you're way bigger and stronger.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm obsessed for saying that stylistically, it would have been a tough fight for Floyd?

    Schooled them?

    :lol:
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ricky was a great pressure fighter. But he was never a WW, and Floyd had a 7" reach advantage. So If he, along with Maidana could cause Floyd issues, then Marg certainly would have done.

    I don't know why you guys are so defensive.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Hatton unlike Margo had the ability to close the distance because he unlike Margo didn't have concrete shoes for feet and had great footspeed, Margo on the other hand is a plodder. Another lesson in boxing courtesy of me.:hi:
     
  14. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    How come Pernell whitaker was a Ww? He was the same size as Hatton...
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, styles make fights.

    Ricky could find success in a way that Marg couldn't, and vice versa.

    We know Floyd would never have knocked out Marg.

    Did Maidana have great foot speed?

    Maidana is very crude, and he's smaller than Marg. But instead of you admitting that Maidana was a tough match up for Floyd stylistically, all you can do is quote Floyd's age.

    You're not open to a proper debate.