http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQU1TK6gXg0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAnAoW1ZMOM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKF_ayvwbBY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQU1TK6gXg0&feature=related not saying lujan = cotto. but i see the fight sort of going the same way with marg being too relentless for cotto to handle.
i kinda favour marg on this one too.... great ****in fight ...and im more of a cotto fan but I reckon the relentless pressure will just pip cotto.. and yes i recognize that Cotto is relentless himself but....
Lujan and Cotto both have a bald head and are around the same height, but that's where the similarities end. Cotto will expose Margarito's horrible defense and make him pay with punishing shots to the body. Margarito won't be the same relentless fighter in the later rounds.
Margarito is the Clint Eastwood of boxing. Pure badassness. I don't think that will be enough to beat Cotto but i like Margo's attitude.
You can also see how limited he is from those vids, play us the Clottey fight, a guy who's accurate and has quick hands and watch Margo get owned, only Clottey fights in bursts and has no real punching power, or damaging ability, like Cotto does. It's ridiculous that Margo is still considered a top level fighter, just.****in'.ridiculous. Then people are going to be so shocked when this overrated fighter gets annihilated in 5-7 rounds of pure punishment and give Cotto way too much regard as a result, as if the guy doesn't deserve it already. Cotto's beaten two fighters much better than Margarito in Mosely and Quintana, different styles, but different level as well and one of those wins was destructive. This will be no different.
Margarito has a lust for combat and is gonna kick Cotto's ass:yep Margo is the bigger man 5-11 to 5-7 Cotto is short, Margo has a stronger chin, better stamina, and physically superior, and Cotto's there to be hit, Zab landed a lot on him but dosen't have the power or fortitude Margo has, Mosley edged Cotto, but Cotto got the nod, the Tijuana Tornado is gonna take this:thumbsup
Oh, what a response Lance, can you debunk my post there? No. You can't, whatever you bring about what Margarito brings to the table I will brutally own you, I thought you could be reasoned with, but it seems you really are what you act like on here. Respond, please, if it comes to bring up youtube video's, I will kill anything you say you unknowledgable ****ing useless poster.
What's to debunk? You're opinion? You're 'unbiased' opinion? "whatever you bring about what Margarito brings to the table I will brutally own you..." Nice internet tough guy routine....Brutally own? I will kill anything? Wow..how pathetic & cliched. Congrats, you're now one of those guys...atsch Anything I say about Margarito, you'll just point to a fight where he lost, or didn't look great, and then downplay his opponent. That's basically what you do. Besides, what do you even think I'll say that will allow you to [frat boy] OWN [/frat boy] me? Think I'll say he's the best ever? Or that his hands are actually REALLY fast? atsch Margarito is a top WW who'll give anyone else a tough fight. He's held a couple titles @ Ww and has defended very successfully his titles against top WW comp. You want to say how badley he sucks, how anyone will beat him? He's so unskilled and slow and plodding with no defense, yet here he is as a live dog against the Top WW in the world. He's seen as a threat to any WW out there whether you want to accept that or not. SO, go ahead and OWN this Great Cliche'd one. Bless us all with your GODLY opinion which will be only backed more by your opinion....*YAWN*
[YT]sg_lKzornkw&feature=related[/YT] Even Winky didn't want to Fight Margarito???? Margarito must b intimidating to these fools.
Hey, I decided to post a proper reply... WHy didn't you just play it. :huh Besides...Margarito won that fight. Say what you want, make your excuses, he won fair and square. This is purely your 'rational and unbiased' opinion. Again, more opinion. WHat you say will happens hasn't and most certainly can be played out in other fashion. Quintana might be more traditional in his technique, but he certainly has not done close to what Margarito has. Saying he's better simply based on technique is a pretty weak way to assess. It's like basically who ever has the beter technique is better in your lame ass book. Mosley's done MUCH more and beat much better comp then Margarito. But he's more gun shy then he used to be. He's still probably my vary fave today, but he's a shell of what he was. I don't know if Mosley can beat Margaito today. Basically, what you asked me to reply to was just you sprouting off your opinion on things that can't really be judges one way or another. You can say all day long what you think WILL HAPPEN, but the reality is it hasn't. DOne playing pretend with you.
That's how you percieve things, dumb Lance. You can't debate with me, you can't debate with anybody, I would destroy your attempt if you want to have a go at it and my opinion is unbiased here about Margarito. Only a complete and utter ****ing moron fan like yourself would tip him as more than he is, what a surprise Lance, you know ****. Pointing out opposition, performance against the opposition, stylistic reactions, opposition level and ability is apart of boxing analysis, did you know this? Probably not. You are going to say that he's a bad style for Cotto, will drive Cotto back and will be able to handle all of Cotto's offence and wear down Cotto, that's the consensus for Margarito's victory, I have for the longest time provided accurate counter and if you want that, I'll give it to you extensively and even try to find video examples for my findings and *opinions*. There is no reasonable way to favour Margarito against Cotto, or to even feel it will be competitive, it's two different classes of fighter. How so? He seems to fail against decent to good fighters. Have yet to see him against an elite, though if you use common logic, if decent to good fighters beat him or make him look like ****, an elite should decisively beat or shred him. Name me this top comp, Lance. Best 4 fighters he's fought - Santos, Clottey, Williams, Cintron. Beaten 2 of them, lost to 2 of them, 1 of the wins had 4 straight rounds early on of him getting pummeled by crisp combinations. Common factor, all of these guys are just decent to good fighter, not top tier elite fighters, Cintron being he worst of them of course. He's not even in the mix against TOP FIGHTERS, the top Welter is Cotto, he's not a live dog, he's a very easy win that will further catapult the popularity of Cotto. Yes and most people are not very bright. I don't accept that because it's way off base by any reasonable look at him as a fighter in comparison to real top fighters, which he is NOT. A threat to guys who have serious skill and elite level ability? Pfft. He's had all he can handle vs. the 2nd tier contender levels below that class and lost against two of them, yet I am to believe he's a threat to the next level up because 'most think so'? Oh, typical Lance Uppercut, no real opinion other than that of a tool. *****.:yep
But in saying such doesn't erase the fact that he showed serious liabilities in the fight also, against another limited opponent. That's not an excuse, that's an evident fact. But quite in the right area. The difference between what I say will happen and what you like to believe is sane views is that I formulate what 'I say will happen' from taking a hard look at most aspects involved with the fighters, things outside of factors that can be noted can happen certainly, but that is irregular. I present well viewed information that I see from taking a detailed look at the fighters, in this case, everything I claim about Margarito's ability is spot on. Not based on technique, but SKILL and ability also. He's not done close to what Margarito has? Certainly hasn't fought as many times, against as many ranked opponents, but he easily outclassed the guy who in turn outclassed Margarito and generally showcases a better use of ring intelligence, skill, defence and ability. Margo has durability on him, Quintana vs. Margarito would have to reasonably favour Quintana. You also said that Margo would give a prime Trinidad problems, Mosely is not a shell, he's not what he once was, but he's still a top fighter and he vs. margarito is an easy choice. What can't be judged? A fighters all around ability? Good job Lance, you really provide a good debate, go back and crawl down the hole you came from now, loser.
All right, run away dumbass Lance, I hope the thread is bumped so we can continue deconstructing the fight and factors and you continue making a fool out of yourself.