Antonio Margarito's gloves were NEVER loaded, irrefutable facts.

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  1. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Real simple, time to debunk this myth. I know I'll have 95% of ESB against me, and 80% of those people want to remain ignorant and peddle this ridiculous myth. My hope is that maybe the small minority whom aren't ignorant, just misinformed get something from this.

    Myth 1: Plaster Of Paris was found in Margarito's gloves prior to the Mosely fight



    Completely false. TRACE elements of Calcium and Sulfar were found in Margarito's gauze.

    Neither Calcium or Sulfar are found in Plaster Of Paris, they are two separate compunds. Calcium Sulfate is what is needed for the making of PoP, which was NEVER found in Margarito's gloves, not even trace elements of it. Calcium, Sulfar, and Calcium Sulfate may sound incredibly similar, but anyone with a BASIC chemistry background knows better than this, very different compounds. So Margarito supposedly has Plaster of Paris in his gloves, yet doesn't even have an absolutely essential ingredient for making it?


    Myth 2: Plaster Of Paris can be used effectively for loading your gloves.


    This was debunked long ago when Cleveland Williams tested the theory that Dempsey's gloves were loaded:

    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/dempsey_gloves.html

    Did you catch that? The manufacturer of PoP said it was completely impossible to use it in such a fashion, period. I challenge ANYONE here to go load their gloves with this substance, and go punch on a heavy bag. You have a good possibility of breaking your hand on the first punch, and it will quickly begin crumbling everywhere. Besides the fact that Plaster Of Paris DOES not hold up being used in this fashion, lets exercise some common sense. How in the hell would someone have a brick like substance sitting on their gloves for an entire fight, throwing 100+ punches a round, and not break their hands? The fighter they would be hitting would have an entire glove to protect them, the fighter using the substance has it on their bare hands, which would undoubtedly shatter their hands. Know why they use hand wraps? Because the hand is made of a multitude of tiny, brittle bones.

    Oh and before you try using the Luis Resto story, this was a guy who lied for 20 years, was broke, and got paid to make a sensational story. He took out padding from his gloves, the plaster of paris bull**** didn't come to fruition until he wanted to make a quick buck. The proof is in the pudding.

    Myth 3: There was a "brick" found in Margarito's gloves
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    Listen to Nazzim Richardson talk about how he found a "brick" in Margarito's gloves. Notice he also explicitly states that he made sure he saved the evidence.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvQcHouzQE

    Here is what was actually found:


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    Where is the brick? Exactly, there is none, just a bundle of gauze.

    Besides that fact, MARGARITO WAS SHAKING HANDS WITH COTTO AFTER THE FIGHT WITH HIS GLOVES OFF, you mean to tell me nobody ****ing noticed? There is always someone from the other team present in the wrapping of someone's hands, especially in a high profile fight too, case closed on that.

    Myth 4: Cotto's face is proof that Margarito's gloves were loaded up.


    Cotto after Margarito 1:

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    Cotto during Pacquaio:

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    Looks like Pacquaio caused far more substantial damage to Cotto's face than Margarito did. The ignorant people love to talk about how there was no way Cotto's face could have looked like that against Margarito without loaded wraps, too bad Pacquiao did far worse. Are Manny's gloves loaded?


    Myth 5: His trainer already confessed to loading his wraps.



    More garbage. I could type it all out, but here is a quote from Bazooka that summarizes this garbage up real quick:

    The District Attorney REFUSED to pursue a criminal case against Margarito

    After the wraps were sent to a lab, the District Attorney refused to pursue a criminal case. Why? BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PLASTER OF PARIS, the ingredients needed for the making of it were NEVER found, not even in trace elements. They claimed they caught him red handed with it in his wraps, that a "brick" fell out of his gloves, and you mean to tell me they don't pursue a criminal case? :lol: Oh and one more thing, THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW A 2nd INDEPENDENT EXAMINATION, which would have cleared Margarito without a doubt, HMMM :think:think:think


    The last panzy excuse to get out of the way is people using his performance against Mosely as justification. Number one, Mosely is kryptonite for a Margarito style, I don't care how good your chin is, you will crack taking haymakers from a guy like that incessantly. Margarito already had trouble making 147, and he had come in at 180 six weeks out from this fight, and drained down to make it. That is why he looked like ****, although guys like Mosely and Pacquaio would always have had Margarito's number.

    CASE CLOSED on this whole issue. This whole case is a prime example of what happens when you combine sensationalism, twisting of the facts, and a bunch of ignorant people who don't bother to do their own research. Continue to peddle the Margarito loaded gloves myth if you want, but the fact remains that he never loaded his gloves :hi:
     
  2. DBLOCK

    DBLOCK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great.well the gauze with blood already on it was found,mosley,pacquiao and cotto kicked his ass!great
     
  3. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    The red was from the glove. How would Cotto's blood make it through a boxing glove? :rofl
     
  4. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    And even more proof to answer the "red mark" on the gauze BS.

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  5. Margarito WAS NOT a cheat. Absolute warrior in every sense of the word.
     
  6. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Exactly, the wars eventually caught up, and the broken eye socket was the nail in the coffin for him, but he was a beast in his prime. He gave the first loss to three champions in Sergio Martinez, Kermit Cintron, and Miguel Cotto, he was a warrior. :good One of the greatest chins of all time.
     
  7. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Thanks for that OnePunchKO lol
     
  8. Bazooka

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    Great now the forum is going to accuse me of having an Alt.....

    Good work though its the 100% truth.. the man is innocent! you also forgot to mention that one hand wrap had already been singed off prior to Nazim being in the dressing room.

    why is that significant? well the inspector was never fired or suspended, you would think that he would have been fired or suspended at the very least as his job is to ensure nothing illegal is put into those hand wraps.

    He is still to this day signing off on hand wraps.
     
  9. steviebruno

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    Good case, Cyrax. For what it's worth, though, he never hurt anyone in the ring again after his wraps were confiscated and he underwent an unparalleled descent; height of his career one fight, finished the next.
     
  10. Bogotazo

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    I always thought it was trace elements of something that was similar to plaster of paris, not exactly plaster of paris itself.

    Whatever it was, it was enough to get Capetillo banned and Margarito suspended. And it looked like the same wrapping from after the Cotto-Margarito fight. And Cotto's face fell apart within just a couple of rounds, from punches that made contact but didn't seem to be buzzing him or have much weight behind them given the way Margarito was throwing them.

    It could have just been an old dried up re-used pad, but it was described as a hardened one.

    None of us can really know, but we can infer.
     
  11. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    I like Margo and do believe him when he says he's not a cheatah. :hat

    He should sue all these people for defamation. :hat

    War Margarito.
     
  12. Bazooka

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    Great Video!!!:thumbsup
     
  13. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Margarito was a HUGE welterweight. He is two inches taller than Austin Trout to give you a rough idea. Being 5'11 he already had trouble making weight, and he really slipped up for the Mosely fight. He was 180 six weeks before the fight, and drained to make weight. I think Mosely would have beat him that night regardless though, it was a horrible match up for Margarito, being that he was easy to hit, and Mosely has dynamite in his hands.

    From there Pacquaio broke his eye socket, which was the nail in the coffin, besides the wars finally catching up. Both of those guys would have beat Marg either way, both had the perfect styles to get the job done. Even Cotto in the first fight did relatively well in the beginning, Margarito just wore him down and beat him up, Cotto's stamina has always been horrible. In the second fight Cotto was beginning to fade badly, but Marg's eye didn't hold up, simple as that.
     
  14. Concrete

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    He would be viewed a lot better if he accomplished something after being accused.
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    The eye socket injury was due to Manny being allowed to use illegal hand wraps

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