Antonio Margarito's gloves were NEVER loaded, irrefutable facts.

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    He was banned, which means he was banned for a reason. That's all I need to know. :conf
     
  2. Bazooka

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    if he were guilty wouldnt you want him banned for life? I mean if he really used plaster I know I would, and I would also want 100% confirmation that it was plaster a mans rep and lively hood is at stake here he should have been given the right to have the hand wraps inspected independently they ended up vanishing which is a red flag to me.

    if he was guilty of using that I would also like the inspector to signed off on that hand wrap to be fired, wouldnt you? I mean come on we are talking about peoples lives here for **** sakes.

    Simply saying he is a cheat and was suspended for it isnt good enough, I demand and expect more out of this sport, a Zero tolerance policy with stuff like this, for crying out loud he had a one year suspension how long was Chavez Jr suspended for smoking weed I mean seriously something in this story is NOT adding up.
     
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  4. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Like I said, they found something, clearly wasn't legal (whether it was plaster of paris or not), he was banned.

    The sport needs more consistency in who is banned, and for what, I agree on that, but I don't see anything fishy about this story. Just because Margarito says he knew nothing doesn't mean we should take his word for it. They found something they didn't like, he was banned.
     
  5. Bazooka

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    There is a huge difference here, its illegal to have used hand wraps, you could get suspended for it, the rules call for fresh new clean gauze.

    So if all this boils down to is mind games that got out of hand which I believe it is, then you have a man who is being accused of being a cheater over some old gauze....

    There is a big difference here you cant just say well they found something wrong he is a cheat. cus the reality is using old gauze is NOT cheating, and if you think so explain to me what type of advantage are we expected a fighter to gain using old gauze?

    thats the point, the commission should have done a better job and Margarito should have had the opportunity to have the wraps inspected by an independent source, this way we would get the truth he would get a fair hearing.

    we would know weather or not it was or was not plaster he was stripped of that opportunity wrongfully and I honestly believe the reason those pads came up missing is because the CSAC was told they were nothing more than used old gauze, they ditched them suspended him and prevented any other future hearings in the matter to save themselves the embarrassment that would have come with it
     
  6. cyrax99

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    Because innocent people never get accused of doing things, right? I mean so all those guys who have been exonerated by DNA in the court system, they were convicted for a reason, that's all we need to know, who cares right?

    Nothing has ever proven Margarito had any wrong doing, nor that there was ever any plaster in his wraps. His trainer used old knuckle pads, that's it, he was banned for using old gauze, that's where the injustice is. Even more sickening in that he was railroaded with these "plaster" allegations, that are inherently false.
     
  7. Bazooka

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    :lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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    Umm Excuse me sir, But ^^^^^ This argument here is only Valid on ESB when speaking on behalf of Mr Mayweather in regards to his abuse allegations please refrain yourself from using this argument in regards to anybody other than Mr May......
     
  9. AnthonyW

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    I really can't be bothered getting in to it all again to be honest. He was banned, both of you have a difference of opinion to me, and that's it. You feel he was innocent, I don't. :conf
     
  10. cyrax99

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    No, he used old gauze. He was banned for using a "plaster substance," which his garbage.

    You were just claiming in your earlier post that sweat couldn't leave sulfur on the wraps, now you've backed off into claiming "well it's only in small quantities!" Stop trying to be a google chemist please. Parts per billion? I'm waiting for your link to show me that sweat wouldn't leave sulfur behind, here is my source proving it's in much higher quantities than what you're saying.

    http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/men/sweating-odor/men-smell-different-from-women.htm


    Bro, he isn't concocting anything, it was just an old pad, look at the ****ing picture :rofl No "brick" that was ever supposedly confiscated ever made it to the lab, the microscope picture shows no plaster, no plaster has ever been proven to have been on the wrap.

    How? They wouldn't allow Margarito's camp to have an independent inspection done, the DA ran for the hills, and the CSAC mysteriously lost the wraps :rofl How is he supposed to prove his innocence? They "lost" the only evidence they had.
     
  11. cyrax99

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    Ok, so other than "he had to be banned for a reason!" Do you have anything? How about the Cleveland Williams experiment showing PoP cracked and crumbled, leaving chunks all in the gloves after one punch? How about how there were no plaster chunks in Margo's gloves? How were his hands not broken if he had bricks on his brittle hands, throwing 100+ punches a round? How did he not break ribs on Cotto throwing all those body shots with "bricks?" Why does the manufacturer of Plaster Of Paris state it is impossible to use their product in such a way? Why did the DA refuse to pursue a criminal case, and would not allow an independent examination when Margo's camp requested it, which would have proven there was no plaster, and proven his innocence? Why did the CSAC mysteriously "lose" its evidence once his camp wanted the wraps? Why was Margarito out shaking hands with Cotto's corner UNGLOVED after the fight, if he had bricks in his wraps? How would someone not notice?
     
  12. AnthonyW

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    Why are you talking about the Cotto bout? His banning had nothing to do with that bout. The illegal wrap was before the Mosley bout, I never mentioned Cotto.

    Got to go out anyway. Speak soon, Antonio.
     
  13. cyrax99

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    So you believe he beat Cotto fair and square? Speaking of "illegal wrap" do you mean old gauze? The plaster has been debunked countless times.

    I know you were trying to be funny, but Margarito doesn't speak English, so good try.
     
  14. jeffjoiner

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    If the ban wasn't justified, Arum, a lawyer, and his team of lawyers would have sued the **** out of the California commission for unjustifiably denying Margarito the ability to earn a living.

    They did nothing of the sort. Their silence speaks volumes.
     
  15. Bazooka

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    How can they when CSAC lost the evidence?