Antonio Margarito's gloves were NEVER loaded, irrefutable facts.

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  1. Bazooka

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    This message is hidden because Waynegrade is on your ignore list.
     
  2. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Bazooka, I found this in relation to the first Cotto fight.

     
  3. Bazooka

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    Here is another source to confirm
    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/bygeorge/item_EvwnfOkXynsKepKqWr2EMJ

    Speaking specifically about July, Kizer said, representatives from the Cotto camp were in Margarito's dressing room during the entire wrapping of the hands. "They were in there from the beginning," Kizer said. "Not only them but people from HBO, people from MGM, there are always a dozen or so people in the dressing room.
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  4. cyrax99

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    And the "he couldn't do **** without his loaded wraps!" garbage just went out the window.

    There is empirically verifiable evidence that his wraps were completely clean in his most defining victory, beating a prime, undefeated Miguel Cotto.

    Something else nobody seems to want to acknowledge is the following:

    Clearly if he had wraps as hard as casts, they'd be noticed right away by anyone looking, so the only plausible way for him to sneak it is to have it still wet when he put the pads on... So it doesn't even fully set for 72 hours, yet people think it can harden halfway through a 36 minute boxing match enough to give him this substantial power boost :lol: I love the "he could have used some other kind of substance!" bull****, the ingredients they claimed they found belonged to plaster of paris supposedly :lol:

    I loved the google chemist who tried to discredit my source showing sulfur in sweat, saying it's "only from armpits." Even if that was the case, these wraps were old, in a ****ing gym bag, I bet there were towels and other things with armpit sweat on them, that had been used :lol:
     
  5. Bazooka

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    Good **** right there man..:good

    Kizer also confirmed Cottos corner was in the dressing room :deal
     
  6. cyrax99

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    Right, I love the google chemist, claiming his expertise, and then being ignorant. He actually told me there was no sulfur in sweat, and then I posted a link showing a science experiment, talking about the substantial amounts of sulfur in sweat, and he switches to "well, it only comes from the armpits!" :lol::patsch

    For Christ sake, the wraps were old as ****, had been covered in sweat, and in a gym bag full of sweaty ****, and people act like there is NO POSSIBLE WAY calcium and sulfur could legitimately be on wraps that aren't loaded, despite them being abundant elements that come from the human body, hand creams etc.

    Oh, and since Margarito has "no power before his plaster kicks in" I wonder how he did the following:

    Golden Johnson - TKO1
    Kermit Cintron 1 - TKO5
    Kermit Cintron 2 - TKO6
    Manuel Gomez - TKO1
    Maurice Brantley - TKO2

    Yeah, he is a featherfist without before that plaster hardens :lol::lol: Oh and an expert chemist too, because he has magical plaster, since Plaster of Paris isn't even fully set for 72 hours.
     
  7. cyrax99

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    FACT: 18 out of Margarito's 27 knockouts have came in 6 rounds or less.

    I thought he couldn't do **** before his plaster wraps harden? :think
     
  8. Bazooka

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    you also forgot to mention his stoppage of Sergio Martinez in which he had a different trainer at that time as well...:deal
     
  9. daprofessor

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    still no response to this? :huh:
     
  10. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    I responded to it, I believe I even quoted it when responding to it.

    I haven't dodged anything in this thread, with the exception of vitriol that was posted purely for hate, and with no facts.
     
  11. C.J.

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    I'll answer you ... Tony Margarito DID apply to the CSAC to have hi9s licence return but was denied. But afterwards look what happened. Tony's rep asked the CSAC rep if the could inspect the so called loaded pads, as no one else but the lab that deemed them harmless had seen them. An embarrassed CSAC rep stuttered "Err Err do we cannot do that the pads have been MISLAID"!!!!!!!!
    A State boxing commission LOSES the o0nly evidence in claimed to have for denying a fighter a licence???? Stinks bad don't it
     
  12. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's put this thread to bed as well, shall we?



    A few articles on the subject, back when it happened......


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_mannix/02/11/margarito.suspension/

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...ito-wraps.html

    http://www.queensberry-rules.com/200...f_excuses.html

    http://www.411mania.com/sports/boxin...of-Justice.htm

    http://www.secondsout.com/columns/th...handwrap-issue

    An excerpt.......
    The options available to the California State Athletic Commission ranged from taking no action against Margarito and Capetillo to a fine, suspension, or revocation of their respective licenses (the maximum penalty under law). In the event of revocation, either man would be free to reapply after one year with no guarantee of reinstatement. An irrevocable permanent ban was not an available option.

    At the close of the February 10, 2009, hearing, the commission voted to revoke each man’s license. It made no finding that Margarito had knowledge of the inserts, but held him responsible for Capetillo’s actions. In so doing, it relied on Boxing Rule 390 of the California Code of Regulations, which states, “Any licensee who conducts himself or herself at any time or place in a manner which is deemed by the commission to reflect discredit to boxing may have his or her license revoked, or may be fined, suspended, or otherwise disciplined in such manner as the commission may direct.”

    In making its determination, the CSAC imposed a doctrine of “strict liability” upon Margarito. That’s similar to the position that most commissions take when a fighter tests positive for an illegal performance enhancing drug. A fighter, the theory goes, is a professional athlete. He’s responsible for his body and his equipment. If someone who works for him puts something illegal into his body or on his hands, the fighter should be held ultimately responsible.



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    Quotes regarding the case from the inspectors.........



    License inspector Mike Bray was called to testify and to reiterate what was found on the hand wraps–which he said looked “moist and dirty looking.

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    “I immediately retrieved it. I believe it was an illegal pad–it needed to be confiscated. I observed what appeared to be a bloodstain. It was not new and their was a white substance smeared across the knuckles. It was hard to the touch–like Plaster of Paris.”- Mike Bray, License Inspector


    CSAC inspector David Pereda, who was in the room, later testified, “Naazim opened the gauze and pulled something out of it. He showed us what appeared to be an old gauze which had been used before and hardened from perhaps being sweaty and wet many times.”


    Inspector Guevara testified, “It [the knuckle pad] was a clean new bandage. But within it, in the inner layers of it, was another bandage wrap. It was not as white as a new bandage wrap would be. It was used and it looked almost like it was sweat soaked and that’s what caused it to have the discoloration. It was harder in certain areas than it should be for pure gauze. It was definitely firm and hard. I believe there was a little bit of, it looked like old blood, on it.”


    Actual footage from the hearing showing the how the insert was hidden........
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    “No doubt then, no doubt now. The wraps I found had the knuckle pad altered in some form. They were hard. I didn’t think twice when I pulled them out as illegal.” - Dean Lohuis, Chief Inspector



    This is not the 1st time these have been posted. At this point, you're just believing what you want to believe.
     
  13. PrinceN

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    GAME OVEO MARGARITO was/is a cheat
     
  14. Leftsmash

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    So he wasn't guilty of plaster of Paris but he still had old gauze that had hardened giving it a firm feeling as well as it being strategically placed in the wraps?

    It still sounds fishy.
     
  15. xRedx

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    Thank you but no matter how many times the OP is refuted, he'll force himself to believe his false delusions and myths. Margarito was cheating throughout his entire career and his victory over Miguel Cotto is completely useless now.

    Margarito's entire career can be seen as plaster and post-plaster. His career was never the same without the plaster since thats what he needed to win.