Antonio Margarito's gloves were NEVER loaded, irrefutable facts.

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  1. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes, it's called X-Ray Fluorescence.

    See table 4.1 in the webpage your originally sent us!

    [url]http://www.osha.gov/dts/sltc/methods/inorganic/id204/id204.html[/url]

    "Listed below are those compounds that may be characterized using this method; however, when the analysis of a specific compound is requested, an elemental analysis is performed and reported as the compound. "

    Calcium sulfate 15 5 Ca, S


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  2. juice20

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  3. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    It reads this:

    Calcium and sulfur could have been there for MANY REASONS, IT WAS AN OLD GAUZE. You haven't proved **** towards it being Plaster Of Paris, and you dodged my question, the plaster would have set, WHY WASN'T THE WRAP ROCK HARD?

    Oh and from your very own source pal

    FACT: When tape and gauze get wet, they harden.
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    in other words their findings could mean anything so lets just assume his guilt cus Brotha Naz says so right?
     
  5. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Do I have proof that Marc Hauser isn't committing fraud, making up quotes out of whole cloth and attributing them to a report from the Bureau of Forensic Services?

    Is that your question?
     
  6. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    when you wrap your hands and either work out or fight with those wraps, after the work out or fight, when you un wrap your hands and set the wraps aside, over night they will dry out and become stiff.

    this is common especially if you didnt un wrap the pad, if you left that as a pad it will become stiff like a sponge when it dries out....
     
  7. HIGHCOLLIDE

    HIGHCOLLIDE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bro i never heard so much bull**** in my life.

    OP is a ****ing ****** and i hope your mother gets hit by a car and your sister molested by your stepdad and if i saw your grandmother i would spit in her face and pimp slap that ***** and if she is dead,good.
    u ****ing disgrace of the human race.
    you are a waste of human flesh.

    margacheato is a ****ing coward.

    1,)why did he get suspended then dummy??

    2.)why did he say he doesnt **** with capetillo no more??

    3.)why did he never perform good after bieng caught??

    4.)why,like u said he is such a beast from bieng the 1st to beat cotto,
    to a horrific performance against an old mosley who cotto had beat?

    5.)your a IDIOT saying pacman did more damage.
    YOU ****ING MORON
    that was after the margacheato damage had been already done dummy

    6.)what happened when he rematched cotto??
    he didnt damage the face as much and punches were soft as ****.EXACTLY.

    7.)what happened to his career and eye after cheating??.down the drain.
    thats called KARMA.

    8.)why did cotto woop his ass the 2nd time around where the wraps were checked?

    9.)why is your mother a *****??

    10.) in the FACE-OFF on HBO,he was shady and didnt wanna answer cotto's questions like a rotten dirty scoundrel that his ***** ass is.

    11.)u stupid **** the district attourney didnt press charges cause they had no proof in the cotto fight ,,he was caught in the mosley fight dummy.

    12.)it was a brick u dumbass.
    u say there is no brick cause of a picture?? lmfao!
    yeah,u can feelif it was a brick or not thru a picture,..lol
    lets take your gay ass take on it,over people and nazim that actually felt it was a brick u bich.

    13.)your girlfriend swallows

    14.)why do all boxers agree that he is a cheating *******???

    15.)explain how the handwraps for the 1st time in history had a deep crack in them,that no 1,including margacheato couldnt explain??

    16.)your father is a coward and u inherited his micro-*****.

    17.)why did u waste so much time defending a cowarc cheater and disgrace to mexicans??

    18.)its very possible that margacheato cheated his whole career

    19.)why do u have margacheato's **** and balls glued to your tonsils?

    20.)you have the brain size and I.Q of a firefly
     
  8. cyrax99

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    Beyond that, nobody is doubting they used old gauze. They act like calcium and sulfur being present in a test means it had to be plaster of paris, as if those elements being present in an old wrap is somehow unexplainable.

    They can't explain how if it was soaked in Plaster Of Paris it wouldn't have been hard as a cast.

    They can't explain how tests done by Cleveland Williams showed PoP does not hold up for even a few punches when he hit the heavy bag.

    They can't explain the manufacturer explicitly stating PoP could not be used in such a manner.

    So they are going to ignore ALL the facts except that one, and nit pick it to death. They aren't proving **** at all.
     
  9. Bazooka

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    Do you have proof that your source confirms it to be plaster paris? No you dont as in your own words you said they can only confirm calcium and sulfur does that automatically make it plaster paris? No it doesnt, you simply want to believe he cheated.
     
  10. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    1-2 punches from being out?lmfao
     
  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    more from Mark Hauser's article:

    Mike Bray (an inspector who entered the dressing room during the dispute) recalled, “I observed what appeared to be a blood stain on the corner of the pad. I also noticed that it was moist and dirty-looking. The pad had the appearance that it had been used before. After looking at the pad closer, I could see a white substance smeared across the face of the pad and into the gauze. I touched the white substance, and it was hard to touch. It looked like a cast plaster or maybe a thicker type of white out that you would put on paper.”
     
  12. juice20

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    no it does not mean that. if you find oranges, and water and sugar....it is not a stretch to call it orange juice. it is entirely possible all three came into contact through sheer coincidence....but what is the likelihood of that....extremely, undeniably, massively small.

    come on. the essential building blocks of plaster of paris was detected, and trace amounts high enough to be detected through XRF and identified as plaster of paris are not going to come from his sweaty hands or fingernails. i don`t care if he loaded his gloves or didn`t. i like the warrior in him. but the building blocks of the suspected glove load are there....and myth number one in the initial argument is completely wrong.
     
  13. Bazooka

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    They havent answered a single question I have and I have been at it for years.

    1) why wasnt the inspector fired he signed off on one of those hand wraps.

    2) why was Nazim allowed to take the evidence into Mosleys dressing room he could have planted anything

    3) why wasnt Margarito banned for life? if it were plaster paris there should be a zero tolerance policy

    4) why didnt they allow Margaritos people to have an independent examination of the hand wraps?

    5) Calcium and Suflur was discovered, but that doesnt automatically mean plaster paris and again it was trace elements you will need much more than that to have any effect during the fight.


    we are talking about having enough in his hand wraps that would penetrate a 8 ounce glove it would be noticeable to the touch and visible to the eye it would be with out a doubt had he actually had loaded wraps
     
  14. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    This guy isn't from the same commission who signed off on the wraps, who watched Margarito being wrapped, right? It's funny you say that, because the picture of his handwrap sure doesn't look suspicious at all, neither did it on the microscope picture. Did you bother to read where they did tests using Plaster Of Paris, and it crumbled into pieces after one punch on the heavybag? They wouldn't allow ANY second independent investigation, Arum wanted an independent investigation on the wraps, they shut the **** up and backed off. It would have been blatantly obvious if those wraps were a ****ing cast substance, they'd of been well set by then.
     
  15. Bazooka

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    There is also tape adhesive on the wraps look up whats found in glue, theres your calcium, the sulfur can come from sweaty hands.

    again in order for Plaster Paris to get through an 8 ounce glove you will need much more than what was discovered