Antonio Tarver 9th Best Heavyweight

What a shite division.

 

He hasn't fought in over a year now.

Boxrec's system is just based on a formula. From what I saw last night, Tarver isn't a top 20 heavyweight, much less top 10. I honestly suspect someone like Jason Estrada would kick his ass.

 

It's a computerized ranking system. Points are assigned for overall career accomplishments (the bigger names on your resume, the more points you have).

It's the same reason Haye was able to crack the top ten one fight after moving up to HW...and Abraham was able to crack the top ten one fight after moving up to SMW...and Marquez was able to crack the top ten one fight after moving up to LW.

You carry your points with you from your previous division(s), which leads to things...not always making a lot of sense. Yes, it's flawed. So is literally every other ranking method. At least this one excludes direct bias. :conf

 

Almost all of the other guys in the top 25 would beat him

 

What top 25? Yours? Boxrec's? The Ring's?

I actually don't think there are 25 heavyweights that would beat him.

He'd be massacred by either Klitschko, and would rightfully be a heavy underdog against guys who could move and get off punches more quickly than him (ie Chambers or Adamek...maybe Haye). He can however most certainly take a punch (if there's one positive thing you can say about Nagy Aguilera it's that he can hit...and he landed a flush right cross on Tarver's chin that didn't accomplish jack) and with his mobility and timing still at even 80% of what they were at 175 he can bother most of the rest of the poor class.

Tarver would box circles around someone as slow as Robert Helenius or Alexander Ustinov. He'd also probably be able to outpoint Ray Austin and Timur Ibragimov without worry of being knocked out. Chagaev in his current state and Solis I'd make even money. All of those guys are in most top 25 lists.

 

What the hell!? Tarver get koed by Helenius easily, unless he run out of the circle and still Helenius can run 10 km less than 45 minutes..

 

I don't dislike Helenius, but come on. He's slow for a legitimate heavyweight. Any one of the smaller guys in the division that either moved up or should have been at cruiserweight all along (Haye, Adamek, Chambers, Povetkin, and even Tarver and Mormeck) would razzle-dazzle him with their speed. He is slooooooooooooow. Slower than Aguilera (who could barely find the landing pad on a rusty old Tarver).

 

I wonder who's next on Tarver's hit list .. realistically speaking

I think the Couture fight shamed Toney out of fighting for the rest of 2010, lol
Toney didn't let down boxing that night, he just made a fool out of himself

 

Fixed

 

I don't know what is worse. Tarver's credibility or boxrecs?

Or to put it another way...

What are they good for?
Tarver: commentating.
Boxrec: boxing records.

What are they poor at?
Tarver: anything other than commentating.
Boxrec: anything other than boxing records.

 

Tarver right now is not poor. He's average. If he was poor he would have been KTFO in his heavyweight debut (and in one of those matches with Dawson, despite Dawson not being a heavy hitter...truly poor boxers find a way to get stopped by guys like Dawson). At his best he was above average (never really close to great, IMO, just lacked the depth in his toolkit) and he has dropped with age to merely average.

Boxrec's rankings also aren't really poor - they're just best taken with a grain of salt and in the context of what they are, like any other. The limitations of their computerized system are noted as duly as the croneyism of the Ring's rankings or the whoring of the alphabet soup's. None of them should be taken as gospel, but rather all used to inform your own educated opinion.

 

He couldn't beat Glass Rocky and he got hurt by his powder puff shots. atsch

 

Tarver has no chance against either Klitschko. Tarver said he wants to fight Haye.