Any non-Bute fans want Bute to beat Froch in the rematch?

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  1. Lucian Bute

    Lucian Bute Active Member Full Member

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    ...interested in reading your thoughts, Classic Posters.

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  2. Andrei00

    Andrei00 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm actually a fan, but I really expect Lucian to beat Froch in this rematch.
     
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  3. Lucian Bute

    Lucian Bute Active Member Full Member

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    Why, man?

    He was pulvarised by Froch.

    I have to say that he did look like a deer in the headlights to a greater extent than before, but he's always started slow and he's always panicked early on.

    This has always been the strategy to beat Bute: go hard and go to knock him out early. Froch knew the score and he's going to do the same again, but with a lot of extra confidence.

    Try as hard as he might, Bute cannot fight any differently. Yeah, sure, he'll move more and he won't decide to go against the ropes uninvited, but that right hand from Froch will keep landing... it's only a matter of time.

    I'm not saying Bute's uppercut to the body won't land, but I doubt Bute can outbox Froch and not get roughed up over 12 rounds.

    I cannot give Bute more than a 30% chance, and I'm being generous and optimistic here...
     
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  4. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    froch by later ko, froch has way better reflex's, and i think bute will train harder but the end will be the same, pulverising UD, or mid/late devastating ko.
     
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  5. Lucian Bute

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    Froch sure as hell doesn't have better reflexes. What he has is better instincts.

    Pulverising UD doesn't make sense. If Froch starts outboxing Bute, he'll keep landing hard and get the stoppage. Bute cannot survive for 12 full rounds if Froch keeps on landing hard, repeatedly from the early rounds onwards.

    If Bute, on the other hand, finds a way of outboxing Froch early on, there is no reason why he cannot build on that in the late rounds.

    Bute has a good chin. He took a lot of flush, hard right hands and yet he wasn't KOed. Devastating KO? Don't buy it. It will probably be a TKO again, but probably later in the fight because Bute will choose a less idiotic gameplan.
     
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  6. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    froch has been fighting top 5 guys for the last few years his reflexes are just better, he has good power aswell, if bute runs and covers, spoils all night he will last, if he doesnt i see a ko. i won alot of money off the last fight and i will be the same way again.
     
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  7. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is a chance that Bute may have learned from the first fight; Froch may sub-consciously think, because the 1st fight was so emphatic he can steamroll Bute again and therefore underestimate Bute...

    A combination of the above may lead to Bute eking out a close (possibly home-town) decision, with the judges being swayed by the crowd roaring every time Bute even throws a punch...
     
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  8. Lucian Bute

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    That would still entail Bute not being clearly outboxed by Froch and not being brutalised by him either. Not easy at all. Don't see it happening much.

    I don't think Froch will underestimate Bute. His win over Bute is his one career defining win. He will want to show that it wasn't a fluke (which it clearly wasn't).

    If anything, Froch will be even more confident and Bute even less confident, and that, in the first crucial few rounds, will make a difference - it has to.
     
    Lucian Bute, Sep 23, 2012
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  9. Andrei00

    Andrei00 Active Member Full Member

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    Well, I think Lucian can outsmart Froch, work the body, and stay away from trouble to win the fight. I never really saw anything great in Froch, so to be honest I won't be shocked if Bute ko's him. :D
     
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  10. Lucian Bute

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    Hmmm... have you watched their first fight...?:lol:

    I'm not saying Froch is an A-level fighter, but if he's not a bit special, what does that make Bute?

    Styles-make-fights can only count for so much...
     
    Lucian Bute, Sep 23, 2012
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  11. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Bute and thought he might have done it the first time round, however I also believe Froch is at his ultimate best and if he keeps up this momentum he will surprise everyone of the supposed TOP men out there!

    Cmon Carl.
     
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  12. Lucian Bute

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    You think he would beat Ward in a rematch? I don't.
     
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  13. babaluma

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    It depends if the previous fight was a magnificent last hurrah by Froch, energised fighting on home turf, capitalising on being underestimated by Bute and having one final peak performance, a sort of blip in Butes career but that he learns from. If so Froch goes on to lose the rematch and drops out of top level fighting or retires.

    However it could also be the start of another solid run at the top for him after exposing a limited overrated opponent like Calzaghe with Lacy and a downward slide into mediocrity for Bute now that his bubble is burst?

    I think it is difficult for a fighter to come back from a lose where he was not only stopped but seemingly psyched out by the opponent and the occasion. Bute just seemed off colour that night, he had the tools to win but Froch just seemed to have him mentally beaten. Bute could win the rematch if he just gets on his bike and uses his speed to outbox Froch over 12 tedious rounds. However I feel Froch will want it too much and stop him in the last round or win by a closer than it should be majority decision.
     
    babaluma, Sep 24, 2012
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