Any similar groupings to the black murderers row?

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pat, she would not have darkened the doorway of the Forum. That was taboo to her. However, when she promoted a big show that would go beyond the 10,400 capacity of the Olympic, she would hold it at the L.A. Sports Arena.
     
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  2. James Page

    James Page Active Member banned Full Member

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    Sure in the 90s you had Ibeabuchi, David Izon, Ray Mercy, Davaryl Williams, Lance Whitaker, Ross Purity, Obed Sullivan and several others duking it out for pride and supremacy without ever getting the respect and the shots that they deserved....with the exception of Mercer ..

    You could also include Hassin Rahman in that group, but he eventually got more opportunities than he truly deserved.
    Props to him though, his resume is still a testament to the throwback days... And he was ducked for years by Vitali so that's another testament to the Black Murderers days
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There’s the South African heavyweights starting in the late 1970s:

    Mike Schutte

    Kallie Knoetze

    Bennie Knoetze

    Gerrie Coetzee

    Jumbo Abbott

    Johnny DuPlooy

    Pierre Coetzer

    Corrie Sanders

    I probably missed a couple.
     
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  4. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    That's about 6 more SA heavyweights I was aware of anyway! Great list!
     
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  5. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed this is what I took the OP to mean, a group of guys from a similar era who deserved a shot but never got one and everyone avoided.
     
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  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only way you’re going to find something similar is black fighters who happened to be from the same area when people were drawing the color line if they have to be such that they were avoided. Would make it a pretty narrow topic without a whole lot of discussion.
     
  7. Saintpat

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    And one of the greatest collections of mustaches ever.
     
  8. Freddy Benson.

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    I guess the standout example would be the black heavyweights of the colour bar era in America. Locked out of the championship and the contenders, had to fight each other multiple times. Similarly the UK saw a colour bar too until the 1940s. don't know if it led to a group of fighters who fought each other (which is what I took the question to mean)
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    The White Killers Kollective (not really but sounds ok) - A group of white, hard, very exciting and reasonably to fairly talented lightweights from the early 80's.

    Charlie "White Lightning Brown", Kenny "Bang Bang" Bogner, Harry Arroyo, Ruben Munoz Jr, "Rockin" Robin Blake, Tony Baltazar and maybe one or two more if I've slacked. Overall there was quite a bit of fighting each other and at times they would have knocked each other out of title shots. Arroyo got a shot and actually beat the two Browns (Choo-Choo as well White Lightning) and Blake in a row.

    They were often seen mixing it with good black lightweights Terrence Ali, Charlie "Choo-Choo" Brown, Tyrone Crawley, Jimmy Paul and Melvin Paul.

    Haugen and Pazienza came in a little later and fought a couple of them as well. There was a lot of fights among those two groups above and some were absolute barn burners as posters like Sal Sanchez and Saad will attest.

    Good days.
     
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