Any1 out there thinks Miranda would win & how (kessler)

If he was better technically I wouldn't ! Dam his style it forces me to root against him ..Though I hope he proves me wrong but I will always pick the tecnical fighter first by default ..

 

ah cmon man his style should make you root for him. we all know his footwork sucks, his jab and left hook is terrible, and his defense is very bad. But his timing, balls, and right hand power make up for it in my opinion. remeber even mayorga had a small reign as undisputed welter there for a little (he beat spinks in my book) so it can happen.

 

Well it's hard to a "real" macho man in boxing I guess - Abraham fought with a broken chin for 7 rounds versus a boxer (with according to some) freakish power and is still called a "****" ...

And yes the headbutt didn't hurt Abraham - but it without question a headbutt - and boxers using tactics like that should be banned!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsUuGfezA6o

 

Sorry but I just don't see this "freakish" power in Miranda - he has good power yes - but he is surely not the "Tyson" some people make him out to be. Against decent opponents his KO-rate drops to 5 in 8 - and add two loses. He connected well loads of times against Pavlik without Pavlik even noticing and Pavlik was down against Taylor.

Miranda got a punchers chance against Kessler - but it's not that big in my book.

 

my point being is that he got put down from a single shot and kessler hit him with everything he had for twelve rounds. i dont think he has that much pop.
it means andrades's chin is not made of iron and kessler does not hit as hard as the men who have been able to hurt miranda. such as pavlik and abraham and green.

 

Andrade got caught early - often boxer aren't fully warmed up in the first round or two. Futhermore Andrade wasn't that hurt - took a controlled knee for a few seconds and got up unharmed. And take a look at some of the shots Andrade took later on without even blinking...

But if we're using that logic, then Miranda hasn't got much of a punch either - he clocked Pavlik clean loads of times not even giving Pavlik a little shaky legs - Taylor had Pavlik down and hurt.

Miranda went the distance with Varela - who was stopped by Rubio (a light middleweight). Miranda also went the distance with Guzman - who has been stopped by Parks (3KOs in 10 wins), Santos (9KOs in 12 wins), Nwodo (18KOs in 22 wins) and Vincent Miranda (2KOS!!! in 6 wins) and Miranda had to go the full 6 rounds...

So doesn't Miranda have decent power???

Kessler is no Tyson - but he does carry good power (29KOs in 40 fights = 72,5% - Miranda: 26KOs in 32 fights = 81,2%). And Miranda hasn't got granit in his chin.

 

Andrade does have an iron chin. He got caught FLUSH with a NASTY hook and survived it. The guy hit Andrade with harder punches later on and Librado just walked right through them.

I think Kessler HAS power but he's weary to actually let it go....sort of like Jameel McCline.

 

-- Kessler ---
I've really only seen Kessler in the Andrade and Calzaghe fights. So bear that in mind while I make my notes on Kessler. With Kessler's inability to KO or even really hurt Andrade, Kessler hasn't impressed me as much of a KO artist. His fight with Calzaghe showed me that he isn't the fastest fighter nor is he very aggressive. What I have seen is a fighter who while not very strong or fast is a highly skilled technician. I can't say much about Kessler's chin since I've never really seen it tested though I do recall Calzaghe hurting him with a punch.

-- Miranda ---
For Miranda. I see a low defensive skill fighter who wins by aggressiveness and power. Miranda does have decent offensive skills. The disparity between his offensive and defensive skills is why Pavlik so brutally crushed him by forcing him to go backwards. In addition Miranda has one helluva of a chin. Granted Pavlik KO'd him but the beating Miranda took would have dropped most fighters a couple of rounds earlier.

-- The fight ---
I don't see Kessler employing Pavlik's battleplan so I see Miranda moving forward and Kessler fighting him moving backwards. In the Green fight Miranda beat a higher skilled opponent by sheer aggresiveness. Against Abraham he nearly won via his sheer punching power. I also don't see Miranda taking the route that Andrade did. Andrade chased Kessler around the ring but never really went for broke in an all-out attack. Miranda is a far hungrier fighter. I see him going for it. That said the skill deficit between Miranda and Kessler is severe and I don't see making the same mistakes Green did.

-- Who I think will win ---
I give Kessler the edge on this one. That said Miranda can win and this fight has the potential to be a good, close one. ( I also predict Miranda throwing at least one low blow )

 

Kesslers ultimate punch happens when he gets just enough time get in the right position. Andrade applied constant pressure and left no time for Kessler to deliver, and Calzaghe, allthough he was hit, never got the full treatment, due to his speed. Miranda is NO Flash Gordon. If Miranda doesn't hit Kessler early on with some heavy bombs, Kessler will no doubt do some "return to sender", possibly in spectacular fashion. Can't wait.

 

I think Miranda can win because i think Kessler heart or passion for boxing, is in his minimal right now.

 

If Kessler's heart isn't in it, then he has choosen the wrong opponent to face...

Kessler could easially have choosen an easier opponent for his comeback fight, if he was having doubt about his own abilities - he didn't. I'm sure Kessler's heart is still in it and we'll see him beat Miranda

 

Sure, not getting stunned at all by any punch to the head by one of the best fighters in the world with underrated power is a clear indication that he's chinny. He's also never been stunned period in his entire career aside from the body shot Calzaghe landed in the 8th, again, he's certainly given indication that he's chinny.

:roll:

 

well its no so much mikkels chin as it is mirandas power. He has the power to knock the most iron chinned guy out. He has got some freakish power for sure. I mean, he like dislocated gibbs knee when he knocked him out and broke abrahams jaw with a punch. thats some power.

note: I know that the broken jaw from abraham is up for debate as far as if it was a headbutt or a punch. There was an uppercut by edison that I saw a replay on which showed him cracking arthur right on the jaw. the replay with the headbutt shows him hitting arthur kinda near the top of his head so I am pretty sold that it was a punch from edison that broke eastman's jaw - thus giving him the 'freakish' power title. That whole fiasco in germany was a farse and it comes as no surpsries that the ref would rule it a headbut rather than a punch.

 

some would say that Miranda was weight drained when he fought Pavlik at 173-174 pounds.:roll:

 

but you forget the one point i'm making. he droppped from a single blow, he is not made of iron . and kessler doesnt have that much behind his punches. others seem to agree.

and its nice to see you can reference boxrec.