Anybody Got the Films?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Chinxkid, Apr 29, 2008.


  1. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hello to everybody, I'm a new visitor to this forum. I'm looking for fight films from the post WWII glory days of boxing, but the fighter I'm looking to find footage on was not a champion, never even fought for the championship, though he came one round away from doing so in 1950, when he was leading on the cards into the 9th against the French by way of Canada import Laurent Dauthuille. Dauthuille had previous wins over guys like Johnny Greco and Jake LaMotta, before his title fight with LaMotta when Jake pulled it out in the end.
    But what made my guy remarkable was he rose to the top ten of the middleweights essentially with one good arm. A childhood injury left him with a steel plate in his right arm and only about six inches of movement in that elbow joint for life.
    His name was Charley Young Zivic, later Charley Affif, and he fought guys like Vinnie Rossano, Sonny Horne, Herbie Kronowitz(at the Garden), Lavern Roach, Oneill Bell, Lee Sala, Freddie Archer, Gene Hairston, Chico Pacheco, Sammy Adragna, Andy Kid DePaul, and he was my father. Anybody help?
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Who was your old-man? Charley Young Zivic or Andy Kid DePaul?? Couldnt tell by the post sorry, i dont have any film BTW unfortunatelly, just curious.
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Andy Kid De Paul was his dad. Or was it Charley Young. :)
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I think it was Charley, although the 'kid' in his moniker threw me there.
     
  5. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Teeto, My old man was Charley Young Zivic, real surname Affif, which he went back to around 1947. He fought out of the Pittsburgh Lyceum and was owned and managed by Fritzie Zivic at the start of his career.
     
  6. teeto

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    Im not sure - ha, i think it was Charley!!!

    Help man, who was your old-man????!!
     
  7. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Thanks, im gunna try and read up about him, you got me interested now. Thanks, he was leading against Dathuille? Very nice. And Zivic managed him aswell, you meet Zivic yourself ever? Are you related ? Are you a Zivic ? You're royalty if so!! Haha
     
  8. mightyd40

    mightyd40 Spartan Full Member

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    sucking up so u dont get thumbed in the eye arent u:lol:
     
  9. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I did meet Fritzie Zivic, and get this Billy Conn too, my dad's real hero.
     
  10. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Haha, no im not man!! Just interested !!!
     
  11. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sorry, i cant reply , im gettin' torn apart by mighty d40!!! Haha
     
  12. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Teeto, I know this is a long shot, but I wonder if you or anyone on this forum could point me in the right direction. I've never seen my dad fight, at least not in the ring, and I just don't know where to start looking for old footage.
     
  13. teeto

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    Havent got a clue sorry, just youtube but i doubt it, some on here will defo help if its possiblr though. Just have to wait for every1 to see your thread!!
     
  14. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks Teeto, I'll check back. By the way, I was glad to hear that you'd be interested in reading up on my old man, since I've got a book coming out early next year on him. Not a typical sports biography though, it's a fictionalized version that's 90% fact; the boxing stuff was taking right out of news clippings I have on him.
     
  15. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I'll have to get it, keep us posted!!