Anybody have cunningham winning the fight

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  1. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Score the fight. It was close.
     
  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I had it pretty wide for Adamek. He controlled the fight in most of the rounds, was coming forward making the fight. And he scored all those knockdowns. I thought the judge who had it 116-110 was right on the money.
     
  3. JAHamilton77

    JAHamilton77 Walking Violence Full Member

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    Interesting name..... what are its origins? :cool:
     
  4. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought the judges' scores were crazy. It was a two-point fight, in favor of Adamek, as far as I could see.
     
  5. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A round can never be scored a 9-9 round under the 10 point must system.

    Every 9-9 round you've seen is the result of points being deducted by the referee. If a fighter is dominating in the round and gets knocked down, it's usually scored a 10-9 round in favor of the other guy. In the case with Cunningham/Adamek, I scored the 4th round 10-9 Adamek.
     
  6. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    I think the judges scorecards reflect exactly what we all were seeing, and thats a fight that was close but that had alot of close rounds that could be scored either way. When you have so many close rounds it's easy to have wacky scores.
     
  7. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Was close but Adamek took it for sure.

    Those KD's made all the difference.

    Steve had me nervous till the final bell.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    There is no way that round should have been scored 10-8 for Cunningham if there was no knockdown. Round 7 of Pacquiao-DLH, now THAT was a 10-8 round without a knockdown. But round 4? Most of Cunningham's shots were not even landing flush, and I never believed Adamek was in as much danger as the announcers indicated.
     
  9. Tuavale

    Tuavale Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't but Cunningham closed very well and made it close.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm baffled by that as well. Part of the problem, I think, is people ****ed up the scoring in that 4th round, which undoubtedly should have been 10-8 for Adamek.

    So, the fight was arguably 7-5 either way, or 6-6 (like I had it). That means scores of 115-110, 114-111 (mine), or 113-112. All favored Adamek. So if the 4th round was scored properly, I believe one needed to have Cunningham winning 8 rounds in order to give him the fight.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    No, that's not what happened in the 4th.
     
  12. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Thank God you are not a judge. That round 4 last night was a 10-8 round for Steve no problem, until the kd.
     
  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wasn't a close fight, IMO. Here are the contortions the judge who gave the fight to Cunningham had to make in order to score the fight 114-112 for him:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110566

    Essentially, to get that score you have to say that of the 9 rounds in which Cunningham was not knocked down in, Steve won 8 and Adamek 1. That's not seeing a close fight, that's seeing a whitewash in the non-KD rounds that didn't exist, IMO. I can recall at least one of the early non-KD rounds from the telecast in which Adamek outlanded Cunningham, and that's just from memory and having caught the Compubox stats for that particular round.
     
  14. diamondDave

    diamondDave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Cunningham, he is a helluva fighter, a tough guy, and he has a lot of heart...however he didn't win that fight! I thought the fight was very close on rounds but even at that I thought Adamek edged him. Add the three extra points he got for the knockdowns and the fight goes from being close to being a clear victory for Adamek!
     
  15. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is correct (or one version of how the scoring had to be; and that includes the 4th being a 10-9 round), at least to get the 114-112 score that the one judge arrived at.

    The only way you can have Adamek at 112 points is if you only have him outright winning (that is, no 10-10 rounds) 4 rounds of the fight:

    4 rounds won = 4 x 10 = 40 points
    8 rounds lost = 8 x 9 = 72 points

    72+40 = 112

    Such scoring says that of the 9 rounds in which Cunningham was not knocked down in, Adamek won 1 and Cunningham won 8. That's how you get Adamek at 112 points.