Anybody have cunningham winning the fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddy-wak, Dec 12, 2008.


  1. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    I had the fight like 6-6, but the knockdowns totally gave it to Adamek. Otherwise it would have likely been 7-5 Cunningham.

    Adamek because of the KDs just had more momentum over the course of the fight than Cunningham.
     
  2. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some of the guys here really must not know how to score a fight.

    I scored it as I watched it, and had it 6 rounds to 6, add the KDs, and I believe I had it 114-112 Adamek. I was being objective, and scored it round by round. Don't know how some of you guys have Cunningham winning... or even a draw.

    Also, I keep hearing "if it wasnt for the knock-downs" ..... well ****, If it wasnt for Tysons KOs he would have never been the HW champ. :roll: Wtf kind of **** is that?
     
  3. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I doubt that.

    It would be like PacDbest saying he scored JMM/Pac II 116-111 for Pac and saying he is objective.

    or EZE saying he scored PBF/JLC I 116-112 and saying he is objective.

    The fact that you are Polish and a hardcore Adamek fan nullifies your objectivity in this disputed fight.
     
  4. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Despite me being an Adamek fan, I know how to objectively watch a fight.

    Don't compare me to PacDbest :lol:

    My score is fair, and is on par with most other objective and knowledgable posters here. A score showing Cunningham winning the fight, however, is not.
     
  5. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    difference being ko's and knockdowns bro.....come on now :good
     
  6. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well you know what I mean..

    Tyson had much greater power then Adamek, and most of his KOs came from one punch, as did Adameks KDs of Cunningham. You can't take a fighters attributes away like that. "If he hadnt knocked him down" but he did. There is no IF.
     
  7. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Alright ******
     
  8. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  9. Gsand

    Gsand Active Member Full Member

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    Veeeeeery close fight.

    round for round cunningham won but throw in the KDs and adamek takes it

    congrats to him
     
  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    not necessarily bro...
    imo, adamek lost the fight even with the knockdowns...a fight to me is like a story..knockdowns are bumps in the road, but if you make it to the end, you can't forget about the other long seconds and long minutes of every round, i mean, that's like leaving out the main part of the story and just getting to the end...you just can't discredit fighters like that, which is basically what your saying....your acting as if no fight happened, just the kd's....

    and there is a big IF now because it's proven that adamek can and probably will get outboxed by flores, why ??? cause we seen it happen with cunningham, and since flores has survived 10-12 before with murderous punchers, i'm sure he can cruise to a decision...so yes the IF'S do matter a lot in boxing, cause it helps you predict future fights...:good

    i can respect your 6-6 a piece, but i gave the close rounds to the champ, including the 2 he got dropped in


    and you brought up tyson, but remember that tyson left no questions in the ring, adamek already has like 3 or 4 split decisions...
     
  11. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I brought up Tyson just to demonstrate that it is not fair to take away something a boxer accomplished in the ring, and say that "if it wasnt for that.. etc. etc."

    Adamek had a different tactic for Cunningham and it worked perfectly. Before the fight happened I said that Adamek is a well rounded fighter, who can brawl, as well as box, and he can adjust to his opponents because of that. Adamek knew he probably couldnt outbox Cunningham and that he had to walk to him, and get him into a brawl, as Cunningham is only a boxer, and not much of a brawler. Adamek knew this, that is why he didnt try to box as much as make it a fight. He succeded, and got Cunningham to fight his fight.

    I didnt discount the rest of the fight from Cunningham. He threw a lot more shots, moved around the ring a lot, and looked very active. It lost Adamek a few of the close rounds simply by USS being more active. But as for the rest of them, you can't expect a few missed, ineffective punches to win you a round over less frequent, but harder, more precise punches. After all it is a fight, not a beauty contest. Cunningham looked fancy, but Adamek got the job done, and knew what he had to do, even if it made him look bad, but like I said, had he tried to box with Cunningham, he probably would have lost. He made it a fight, and won.

    There were lots of close rounds where Cunninghams jabs to Adamek went unanswered for a few times at a time. Those went to Cunningham, since they were fairly equal, but Cunningham did more. But for the others, where they were busy rounds for both fighters, Adamek gets them for being more effective. All Adamek had to do to win more rounds was be a little busier, IMO. That lost him a few of the 6 rounds I gave to USS.
     
  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    rewatched the fight just now, i forgot the details of my original scorecard because i was so into the fight but here it is, objectively.

    Rd.
    1.Cunningham (clearly, Adamek didnt land anything)
    2.Adamek + KD (clearly, good action round about a toss-up but the KD sealed it for Adamek)
    3.Cunningham (cearly, Cunningham controlling the round with ring generalship, Adamek got in 2 good shots but Cunningham got in more)
    4. 10-9 to Adamek (Cunningham dominated the round until the KD which came at 2:30)
    5. 10-10 (toss up round could go to either fighter)
    6. Cunningham (close round, not much action Cunningham circling and Adamek stalking,Cunninghams jabs is what set them apart in this round IMO)
    7. Cunningham (clearly, domination all the way for Cunningham Adamek landed a shot at the end but its no where near enough to win it)
    8. Adamek + KD (Cunningham was winning the rd until the KD but it wasnt domination like rd 4, have to give it 10-8 Adamek)
    9. Cunningham (close, Cunningham outboxed and landed more flush shots but Cunningham was the one that was hurt when Adamek landed his)
    10. Cunningham (clearly, Cunningham throwing and landing more, there was some exchanges but Adamek could not get the best of it like he has in earlier exchanges)
    11. Adamek (Clearly, Adamek throwin, and landing more)
    12. Cunningham (Clearly, threw everything he had and landed quite a few shots, Adamek got in some too but Cunningham landed more and overwhelmingly threw more as well.)

    114-113 for Cunningham

    give the close rounds and the toss-up round to either fighter and the range is
    116-110 for Adamek(if you want to reach and give him a 10-8 rd.4) to 114-112 for Cunningham.


    Its not a robbery but Cunningham definetely has a legitimate claim to have won the fight.

    One thing is for sure, Adamek's boxing ability is surely overrated by some in this fight, the only way he could of won a clear round against Cunningham was to make him touch the canvas or hurt him round 11 is the exception.

    I dont understand why the Adamek fans dont want to see a rematch either, this legacy unification junk is really all just an excuse and arent real boxing fans.
     
  13. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Damn that happened to you to???:patsch
     
  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Adamek clearly beat Cunningham. A split decision was a disgrace.
     
  15. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93804&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=0


    Checkmate