Anybody think murray would have gone 11 with cotto, canelo or ward?

did he? i don't see him as a classic 'counter puncher'. Golovkin generally prefers to initiate and not return fire while being punched at. ideally, he wants to connect with the jab and explode off of it before they can react. (his favorite punch is the left hook.)

i agree his pressuring is a result of adapting to his opponents rather than him being in his element. his muscle memory and where he feels most comfortable/natural (from all those amateur fights) is on the outside.

 

lol at this ugly stupid troll.:deal

 

They had to readjust his style to a more "mexican mold" like JCC Sr etc except with more power behind it.
In his natural element people won't come to him.
He is much like JMM in his style of counter punching in the sense that he throws while the other guys throws.

GGG is far more dangerous when people come to him.

 

I just can't see how Cotto would stop Murray. Not in a month of Sundays and to be honest.

Can anyone see the Sergio Cotto fought going past 3 with Golovkin?

 

You're right, he wouldn't have gone 11 with them...he would have gone 12

 

He would probably stop cotto and canelo based on his size he would go the full distance with ward.

 

again, i disagree about him being a counter puncher. the Geale exchange was an anomaly. Triple G generally prefers to block or dodge punches and then start attacking when his opponent is finished. if he sees a glaring weakness he will counter but he's rather risk averse from the outside.

i don't agree about the 'mexican mold' or his being like JCC Sr either. that's just Abel blowing smoke to increase mexican interest in his fighter. sure he's aggressive when they run or are hurt and they probably work on that. but Golovkin is who he has always been as a pro. just more versatile now.

 

I guess we see different things, it was pretty obvious to me he was trying to bait the counter pretty hard with Murray as well.

 

I think its funny how the OP tries to say he has no good wins

Rosado gave Quillin and Love all they could handle, Golovkin crushed Rosado

Geale unified two belts by beating Sylvester and Sturm and had a close fight with Barker, Golovkin annihilated Geale

Macklin was tight on the cards after 9 or 10 with Martinez til Sergio closed it out, Macklin did nothing vs Golovkin and was handled

Rubio stopped Lemiuex and went 12 with Chavez and 9 with Pavlik, Golovkin beat him much quicker

I had Murray beating Martinez, though it was close and could have gone either way, you have to admit Martinez was taken to the wire by Murray who Golovkin obliterated

so you cant say he beat bums because these same bums have beaten or been really tough for his contemporaries

Im not calling anyone on Golovkins record a great fighter, like the Martinez win that stands on Cottos record though I think there is an understanding that the knee had a lot to do with it...but Golovkin is racking up a solid list of very good but not great fighters

I dont think middleweight has any greats at the moment but he has the opportunity to get Quillin and Lee who are very good and the possibility of Canelo, Lara, or Andrade if they move up

 

i would agree with that. he had to adapt to Murray moving while wearing ear muffs. difficult to find an opening against that besides a counter.... i think the Ishida fight best defines who Golovkin is as a boxer, an opponent who stood his ground and tried to box with him in a normal fashion.

 

You need to change your cereal.

 

Are you saying Cotto and Canelo finish Murray in less than 11 rounds?

 

I'm not saying we have to be in awe of the guys he beat but the performances and method of victory should say something

Plenty of guys still call Golovkin a hype job, I think he's the top active middleweight. Now maybe that says something about the state of the division

Either way Golovkin is beating a string of solid competition but lacks a great win. I don't think there's a great win at 160 or even 154. Maybe Canelo or Cotto but those wins would get marginalized especially since many are highly critical of Cotto as a middleweight to begin with

Golovkin could journey up to 168 vs Froch or Ward though he'd be a serious underdog except it might be more foreseeable that he can beat Froch

We will have to just wait and see