Anyone a wee bit suspicious of Inoue?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This nuthuggery of Inoue is what I can't tolerate.

    Like I said the guy is a verified ATG. But you're acting like he's so good that it can't possibly be natural. Which is mental.

    Did you forget he was dropped in the first round, and Donate broke his face. Inoue isn't superhuman. He's just very very good.
     
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  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All because he ain't American, lol.
     
  3. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And what has any of that got to do with the disgraceful allegations put forward by the person who started this thread that Inoue might be on PED’s?
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    The person who started the thread is nuthugging inoue harder than anyone I've seen on here before so I'm calling him out on it.
     
  5. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually think Japanese people are too honourable for that. They're the sort of people who'd rather lose than cheat.
     
  6. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you please translate I don’t speak Italian but I’m fluent in italics
     
  7. boxingexpert733

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    So him having weaker opposition at 147 (more to do with when he fought them rather than who he fought) answers the question I suppose. Though one thing I found interesting was how lesser opponents at both 140 and 147 gave Crawford a harder time than Errol Spence jr did even if they did get stopped or beat wide on points. At no point did Errol ever hurt Crawford let alone back him up. He also got dropped by a jab like you mentioned. We can’t forget that Errol was in the top 10 pfp while guys like porter, khan, benavidez, horn, etc weren’t on the pfp list (I think) at the time he fought them. Anyways we will have to see how he does at 154 to really come to a conclusion.
     
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  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're a confusing poster. You say I'm nuthugging Inoue then go on to say yourself that Inoue is an ATG. Also, you said that what Inoue is doing isnt spectacular...so who are the other fighters stopping everyone in their 3rd and 4th weight classes, where theyve become undisputed, in one year?
     
  9. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats another good point about the Spence fight. Errol didnt offensively trouble Bud - at all - and genuinely seemed drained. So even if Bud was dropping Errol w jabs most of it was attributed to something being wrong w Spence...which there was
     
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  10. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Crawford s KO percentage is higher at Welterweight than it was at Lightweight there's twelve pounds difference between those two divisions so not only did he carried his power it also says by the numbers that his power improved so using your logic Crawford is way more suspicious than Inoue but since you're a Bud fanboy he's not suspicious but Inoue is cause you see him as a threat to Crawford pound for pound crown.

    Can't take someone like you serious when you have double standards.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    I think lots of fighters are ATG but I do not nuthug them.

    I don't think Inoue has been that amazing that we have to suspect him of doing anything untoward compared to his peers.

    For me that's too nuthugging. That you think he's that good that he must be cheating is praise he has not warranted.
     
  12. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He just hits hard. If you ever sparred with a smaller guy, they can also hurt you. He probably punches harder than Mariusz Wach.
     
  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    That's... naive.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm not accusing Crawford of being on PEDs but if other fighters are going to be considered suspicious for carrying their power or it improving through 3 or more weights then the same rule has to apply to him. He has a KO 100% at his third weight and his power is improving the bigger the opponents get. What if he stops career 154 pounder Madrimov next 19lbs above his first weight?

    Yes but he was that clean, sharp counter puncher at 135 and 140 too but he didn't have a KO 100% at either of those weights.

    He's a big 147 pounder and he doesn't look at all undersized against his opponents up there. I reckon he weighed at worst the same as Spence and he's fighting guys at that weight roughly his size, some a little bigger, and some a little smaller, but most his size.

    He's not going to be undersized at 154 against Madrimov either. He may well actually be heavier on the night

    From 2020

    “To be honest, I could easily make 147lbs. I walk around at roughly 160-164lbs, so it would not be a difficult cut for me. Some welterweights like Errol Spence are bigger than me, even. But I did not want to compete there, because my priority is winning world titles and I knew that it would be very hard to get a title shot in the division. The way boxing politics is, the best at the weight would have avoided me.''


    154lbs is much better for me - it is a very open division, the titles change hands a lot but there are many good fighters who I can beat to build my legacy. I want the biggest fights, and I will get them in this division. When some of the welterweights like Spence and Garcia move up as well, they will be more likely to face me if I am champion.”

    -- Israel Madrimov

    Crawford had to be coming in at 147 at the weight Mardrimov walks or walked around at and Crawford walks around significantly or a lot more than what Madrimov does or did and obviously he will be coming in heavier than what he was at 147 and, as said, he's clearly more muscular and bigger now

    Inoue isn't a small 122. He's coming in about 135 and these guys he's fighting are roughly his size or if they are bigger it'll be about 3-5lbs and maybe some 7lbs or so. He's just a natural puncher and he has great speed, accuracy, timing and technique.

    Nery came in at least 139 for one of his fights and whilst I suspect he's the type to rehydrate 20lbs I couldn't actually see any size difference between him and Inoue in the ring. But some fighter's weights can be deceptive.

    I know you're not a Floyd fanboy.

    Usyk just has to beat Belly to become to regain the P4P throne. Now he is fighting giants who hold ridiculous physical advantages over him, has fought more legit punchers and KO artists than any current champ - he's fought a whole bunch of the hardest punchers in the entire sport - many much bigger than him, and he's doing it on the road. These giants like AJ, Dubois and obviously Belly are fast, especially for their size, and skilled too.

    Belly isn't considered a massive puncher but he can crack when he wants to and the vast size and weight disparity between them will magnify his power.

    Becoming undisputed at two weights where you're routinely fighting opponents who are way way bigger, heavier, longer or much longer than you and who hit much harder than you is obviously extremely difficult to do. He's navigating a minefield every single second of the fight where if you tread on a mine it's game over not just the loss of a limb.
     
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  15. bjl12

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    I dont think its double standards. Crawford hasnt fought the talent Inoue has (at 140 or 147) and hasnt landed a single arm punch KD/KO other than the Spence fight where Spence was reenacting zombie movies.

    Both guys appear to be ATGs and both potentially could make even more noise before its all said and done...really pressing for RARE territory.

    If someone believes Bud is juiced by all means post it and we can review it.